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#51
Originally Posted by szopin View Post
This leads me to just one point: This is the LAST referendum to end them all.
Which part of my posts have you not read? I've said several times now that this neither adds nor removes ANY requirements for referendums.

The number of times referendums is required is and will be identical, weather you vote YES or NO on this. Nothing in this referendum changes when or if referendums are required.

Is that clear? Referendums are NOT going away. They were never proposed to go away, nor do any of the changes proposed in this one cause ANY changes that affect referendums AT ALL.
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joerg/woody, I think we can easily address any problems szopin has, correct flaws in reasoning, etc, without resorting to ridicule or dropping implicit insults, whether they be at szopin or indirect references to (near as I can tell) Estel.
 

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Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur View Post
joerg/woody, I think we can easily address any problems szopin has, correct flaws in reasoning, etc, without resorting to ridicule or dropping implicit insults.
I've edited their posts; once a moderator steps in to cut things short and move on it is understood that everybody should refrain from inciting things further and keep things on-topic.

On a more general note, I'll have to report further inciting posts for infraction points from now on. One person's joke is an insult to somebody else so why go into it again?
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beside having thanked him with the little thanks! link underneath his post i would like to thank Mentalist Traceur for his elaborate post!
not only for the sheer effort of typing it out (which many resented, clearly) but also also for indeed bringing up a couple things i wasn't aware of.
than again, i haven't exactly followed what's going on here much lately, certainly not after two weeks' ago MCC meeting

this being said, i still feel that all this isn't really worth any Conspiracy theory ideas
after all, even openSUSE is coming with an ARM port, so hopefully we'll soon be able to run any Linux distro on a mobile device
maybe even on our beloved N900s
thus is there room or even need of Maemo once our N900's stop working? i'll be using it as long as possible (even though i have a N9) but also hope that Jolla will surprise us with a nice device with hardware keyboard

so, is all that worth so much, that we need to spend days, weeks arguing about dots & commas, suspecting everyone and every statement of an attempt to a coup?

and insulting each others, btw... what's the point in that, indeed
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Originally Posted by thedead1440 View Post
I've edited their posts; once a moderator steps in to cut things short and move on it is understood that everybody should refrain from inciting things further and keep things on-topic.

On a more general note, I'll have to report further inciting posts for infraction points from now on. One person's joke is an insult to somebody else so why go into it again?
I can tell you that *I* don't like jokes like "this post just to annoy him. Please moderators delete when he's annoyed, no other point in it" and *my* brain refuses to delete any info or even tag it as "censored". I will *always* answer accordingly.

Now go ahead, edit this post to stay on topic, and give me infraction points for it
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PS: the fact that MT brought in usernames here doesn't mean that anything in Woody's or my post been any insulting, in my book both posts were perfectly within all forum rules and didn't call names or even go off topic. The fact that MT instantly came up with an other user's name is sufficient proof that Woody's initial suspicion been a common one not only with him and me but also with MT, though MT - as usual - is approaching it in a much more forgiving way and instead blamed woody and me - if he really did.
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So to have everything cristal clear - I vot Yes and everything runs smooth as silk?
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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I can tell you that *I* don't like jokes like "this post just to annoy him. Please moderators delete when he's annoyed, no other point in it" and *my* brain refuses to delete any info or even tag it as "censored". I will *always* answer accordingly.

Now go ahead, edit this post to stay on topic, and give me infraction points for it
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Joerg,

i'm going to get even more in trouble and getting more infractions for replying OFF TOPIC, but i appreciate where you are coming from...
still, i thing 1440 does a decent enough job keeping posts in line, and as i alluded to in my previous post on this topic, what's the point in insulting other posters?
isn't the best reaction to insult (as to trolling) no response?
then again, if the insult takes the (general) form of "since you are member of ..., you ..." it is difficult not to react, but at least (as you usually do, as far as i can tell) remain matter of factly, so cool that you can keep a side of meat inside of you for a month or can't even look over your pelvis anymore?

i suspect the lack of trolling recently has more to do with the dwindling of interest in TMO then 1440's ruthlessness, but still, correcting the unruly is still the only way to impose any rule, alas...

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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
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PS: the fact that MT brought in usernames here doesn't mean that anything in Woody's or my post been any insulting, in my book both posts were perfectly within all forum rules and didn't call names or even go off topic. The fact that MT instantly came up with an other user's name is sufficient proof that Woody's initial suspicion been a common one not only with him and me but also with MT, though MT - as usual - is approaching it in a much more forgiving way and instead blamed woody and me - if he really did.
we don't have access to the original parts anymore, so except venting your frustration... what's the point?
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you vote yes and we will try to give HiFo a proper council that this entity is allegedly missing since its own foundation, according to Rob. According to all others involved in foundation of and early instantiation of HiFo the HiFo council is simply adjusting a few typos to make own rules that they have promised to follow are more in line with that HiFo entity's bylaws, so there won't be annoying cumbersome conflicts in future.
For you it's exactly like that: vote yes and everything is more likely to stay as it ever been, vote no and probably maemo will collapse.
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Originally Posted by misterc View Post
Joerg,

i'm going to get even more in trouble and getting more infractions for replying OFF TOPIC, but i appreciate where you are coming from...
still, i thing 1440 does a decent enough job keeping posts in line, and as i alluded to in my previous post on this topic, what's the point in insulting other posters?
isn't the best reaction to insult (as to trolling) no response?
according to some wise man (you're free to dig his name up in citations db):
It is irrelevant how plausible or how backed up by facts an defamation is to make the masses believe it. Really all it needs is constant repetition so they hear it every day for weeks and months.
I know i'm absolutely in line with woody here, and the only logical consequence is to let not a single false statement, lie, or diffamation get by unanswered.
So NO, not answering to trolling that has potential to give others a false idea is not an option.

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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
according to some wise man (you're free to dig his name up in citations db):

I know i'm absolutely in line with woody here, and the only logical consequence is to let not a single false statement, lie, or diffamation get by unanswered.
So NO, not answering to trolling that has potential to give others a false idea is not an option.

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why not simply asking for proof?
of course, you have to give the good example first and post your point with good proof, references and all

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know why?
'cuz masses are gullible, indeed...

EDIT: check my signature... it has been there for months, stating exactly your point
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