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    Morpog | # 641 | 2013-06-24, 08:42 | Report

    Chinese article about SailfishOS with new video and pictures.
    Google translated link: http://translate.google.de/translate...Fview%2F182306


    SailfishOS on a Nexus 7 tablet


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    P@t | # 642 | 2013-06-24, 09:23 | Report

    Originally Posted by Morpog View Post
    Chinese article about SailfishOS with new video and pictures.
    Google translated link: http://translate.google.de/translate...Fview%2F182306
    seems that the supported Android apps are limited to 2.3 (given that the translation is ok). Not sure if they plan to do more but at the end of 2013, it will appear dinosaur ages...

    extracted from the article:
    Originally Posted by
    Android 2.3 for all supported formats APK installation package can be installed directly in the Sailfish OS and use. Users do not need to make any additional conversion work.

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    misterc | # 643 | 2013-06-24, 10:22 | Report

    Originally Posted by ggabriel View Post
    [...] does it make sense to have the details of the interface without a device to test it with? Whoever is going to run that risk?
    [...]
    well, Jolla obviously will have the complete specs and even though they announced any 3rd party can create a other half, they are likely to create some themselves, no?

    this being said...
    got a SGT2 (7") a few days ago as a "promotional gift" for a cable upgrade
    it runs Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and it didn't take me long to discover a number of apps that i won't bother looking for leave alone develop for N9(00) or even Sailfish.
    however, i only got a tablet without GSM MoDem
    also found a number of apps that give one a full cli (e.g. Terminal IDE (including mc )) and a very nice sw keyboard
    however, a hw kbd is better as you lose @ least 40% of the screen to the @#$%& vkbd

    thus, went on looking for an Android 4 device with hw kbd...
    in the states there are few but even so, they don't seem to be high prio (most are only ICS, JB barely available if at all...)
    on the other side of the pound, well, there is a couple oldies (Gingerbread) devs

    so, long story short...
    • how is it that with the dozens of millions Android devices sold ww, hardly anyone is interested in manufacturing respectively selling devices with hw kbd?
    • if multi-billion companies (S, LG, Sony...) barely can be bothered, how / why should a little start up ???

    still have to check whether the BT connection between the SGT & the Logitech diNovo i got some time ago for the N9 will work better
    as the dev doesn't have GSM, portability isn't really an issue

    and ultimately hoping Jolla will come up w/ a hw kbd other half & alien dalvik will support the apps...

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    jalyst | # 644 | 2013-06-24, 11:27 | Report

    Originally Posted by P@t View Post
    seems that the supported Android apps are limited to 2.3 (given that the translation is ok). Not sure if they plan to do more but at the end of 2013, it will appear dinosaur ages...

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    Sigh, I really do hope that's wrong, for Jolla's sake....
    BB 10.2 beta recently added support for ICS, or maybe it was JB IIRC...
    I hope HTML5 (via Cordova) support is decent too, & that the Store is innovate/creative in how ties multiple sources together.

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    Rauha | # 645 | 2013-06-24, 11:30 | Report

    Originally Posted by P@t View Post
    seems that the supported Android apps are limited to 2.3 (given that the translation is ok). Not sure if they plan to do more but at the end of 2013, it will appear dinosaur ages...
    They are using Myriad's Alien Dalvik platform. The limitations propably come from that. Unfortunately the Myriad homepage does not really give any info about what versions of Android are supported.

    http://www.myriadgroup.com/device-so...%20dalvik.aspx


    EDIT:

    https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/337205895337476096

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    jalyst | # 646 | 2013-06-24, 11:33 | Report

    I linked to a much more detailed info sheet about AD in this thread IIRC, it was at least 1mth ago now.
    But IIRC it didn't mention anything about what versions of Android it supports...

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    misterc | # 647 | 2013-06-24, 12:15 | Report

    from Myriad Group - Myriad Alien Dalvik
    • Alien App Ecosystem - a fully managed service providing access to a customisable application store environment, comprising of the latest Android applications. Developer resource including documentation & tools and application management including the sourcing of apps.

    of course it's only marketing talk, but seems difficult to interpret differently then supporting ICS / JB apps, no?

    on the other hand, AD 2 seems to be "cloud" based, thus requiring an Internet connection...
    there is a run-time possibly for local use only, but question is whether Android 4.x support isn't limited to the "cloud" version

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    jalyst | # 648 | 2013-06-24, 14:50 | Report

    Hmm, the site seems revamped since I last checked it out, Jesus I hope it isn't cloud based... >.>

    *EDIT*
    I thought the cloud-based stuff was purely for "porting" efforts? Nothing to do with the actual run time etc.

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    Dave999 | # 649 | 2013-06-24, 15:52 | Report

    If it's cloud based one can assume it will work on all platforms.

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    Rauha | # 650 | 2013-06-24, 16:19 | Report

    Originally Posted by misterc View Post

    on the other hand, AD 2 seems to be "cloud" based, thus requiring an Internet connection...
    there is a run-time possibly for local use only, but question is whether Android 4.x support isn't limited to the "cloud" version
    "Deployment - cloud and embedded options are available to customers regarding the deployment of Myriad Alien Dalvik. Alien Embedded comprises Alien running on devices alongside and fully integrated with the native OS & apps. Alien Cloud features Alien running on a server connected to a thin client."

    Very much doubt that Jolla would opt for the cloud based version.

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