dburr10085: This is that famous "linux community": if I cannot play with it, you are not allowed to play with it too? The fact that version for chinook is released or not, does not influence your chance to see it sooner.
I do not know, what country you are from. I am from rather a small country (Czech Republic to be precise) and the state of linux (gnome, kde, whatsoever) translations is lacking in contrast to english. Should we say, that naehe, you should not release a newer version of your software until it is perfectly translated to Czech? C'mon, we are community.
dburr10085: i would put it other way. why should everybody wait for one problematic bugfix, that affects just one part of the community? i recommended releasing for older systems without podcasts, so you can use it as well. without waiting for dbus fix.
anyway handful said that they will release frequently, so podcasts for 770 will come, although later.
i've thought they (indt) meant bazaar model (release early, release often).
dburr10085: This is that famous "linux community": if I cannot play with it, you are not allowed to play with it too? The fact that version for chinook is released or not, does not influence your chance to see it sooner.
I do not know, what country you are from. I am from rather a small country (Czech Republic to be precise) and the state of linux (gnome, kde, whatsoever) translations is lacking in contrast to english. Should we say, that naehe, you should not release a newer version of your software until it is perfectly translated to Czech? C'mon, we are community.
Mythic - good point. I didn't think about it that way. I do get frustrated with the way the N770 gets treated in general. I am reluctant to upgrade my device because I fear that older devices are forgotten about or not cared about because they are no longer the primary device. I've been through the PC era of buying a machine and by the time you get it home, it's already obsolete. I have learned my lessons from that time. I hope others will not so quickly suggest that the way to solve problems is to upgrade, as this means that some marketing machine is working hard to part you from your hard earned money.
It seems that as long as there is a clear roadmap for the remaining bug fix, people are happy with releasing now. I am therefore happy to go with that and will be watching this space for the announcement ;-)
I would like to hear from you: Do you think is better to wait a little bit more and have a global update with all the features working or..
People need to have patience. This "got to have it now!" attitude some people have turns rather quickly into "Why won' it work?" Please take the time to do it right.
Thanks for the comments, and I think the opinions are valid from all sides. I actually would like to know the user base of each device x OS version, not to filter, but to have a understanding of what to aim first at several decisions.
The focus for now of course is the 770 (don't matter if 2006 or HE) Why? Because we made a promise.
So, I unfortunately need to take a action because I can't hold all the team in one issue for too long, we need to get it going. The plan is clear now :
We have all the workforce, (ok, almost all - youtube and last.fm and more formats support are under development) working on the issue, but.. if we cannot make it until tomorrow, we will release it (the updated version) for everyone but lacking podcast for the OS2006, HE and Bora for both n770 and n800. Chinook users will get the podcast feature.
But the sad part: if the bug is not under our realm (eg: the python bindings of DBUS) we will be out of luck, and unfortunately the BORA and Gregale users will have no updates in "That" front. It will like the others, receive all others updates, but if the problem is in the component level in the platform where we cannot fix it : / we will focus on the future and newer devices :/
I know that sounds bad, but people need to remind that there's a huge gap between BORA and chinook, and I can tell you Nokia did a great job on chinook fixing so much bugs that our life is a lot easier with that.
Anyways great to hear from you, and at least we were able to improve small bits in the meantime =)
Because one day your device won't be the primary device either. We are either going to be a community that sticks together for the good of ALL, or only cater to those privledged enough to own the latest and greatest. What would you like to happen when your device is no longer the latest and greatest??
This doesn't really make sense to me. Once my n810 is not the latest and greatest, I expect to not be the main priority any longer, just as it always is with any electronics for as far as I can remember.
I say release it now so the 770 users can help you debug that version and get to enjoy what is working, then add those features when they're ready for that version. That way, everybody gets to enjoy something NOW as opposed to everybody WAITING for an undetermined amount of time. Common sense to me.
