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marmistrz | # 791 | 2013-07-27, 14:28 | Report

Originally Posted by nodevel View Post

Exciting indeed.
The most exciting stuff includes (after few minutes of digging through):

Calligra
FM Radio (at least receiver)
All the grilo plugins, most of all Jamendo, Youtube, Flickr...
Btrfs?
All the new 'noarch' stuff

XWayland missing, so no surprise there.

EDIT:

IIRC, they said the QML parts of SilicaComponents will be open - under BSD license (at least initially). This repo contains the QML parts together with the binary libraries, so that's probably the reason why couldn't be included in 'oss'.

Can you please point me where they said what'll be open and what not?

nodevel | # 792 | 2013-07-27, 15:22 | Report

Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post

Can you please point me where they said what'll be open and what not?

Nothing has been officialy announced yet, but regarding Silica, the important info (from Stskeeps) is here:
http://merproject.org/logs/#sailfish...2013-02-27.log
http://merproject.org/logs/#sailfish...2013-07-02.log

Originally Posted by

2013-02-27T10:43:53 <thp> in the emulator, the sailfishsilica package metadata says "License: TBD", qml files in /usr/lib/qt4/imports/Sailfish/Silica/ have a BSD license header - there's no open source git repo for silica yet, right?
2013-02-27T10:44:54 <Stskeeps> correct, it was said on fosdem that it will be open source and that has to be done properly, ie, open development, and a sdk launch is not a good place to do that
2013-02-27T10:46:30 <Stskeeps> the primary use of the QML parts is that you specialize the components by copy-pasting them
2013-02-27T10:46:43 <Stskeeps> for an app developer

So I guess it was publicly mentioned at FOSDEM (and it had been talked through few times in this very own thread as well...).

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marmistrz | # 793 | 2013-07-27, 16:56 | Report

about 2013-07-02T17:17:11.

So it's not really known for sure what about the openness of Sailfish... Do you think they'll eventually release the source code?

mikecomputing | # 794 | 2013-07-27, 18:29 | Report

Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post

Can you please point me where they said what'll be open and what not?

How hard can it be to read the sourcecode of silica? In the header they say its BSD license the rest we don't know yet.

But as stated already by many is that the core apps will probadly not be open. Also I do not expect all drivers be open especially not GFX (no one has open GFX drivers on embedded this days)

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mikecomputing | # 795 | 2013-07-27, 18:38 | Report

wonder if old SDK can be repointed to new repository hmm lets check...

edit: upgrade in progress mersdk upgraded...

next the emulator

......

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marmistrz | # 796 | 2013-07-27, 19:02 | Report

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

How hard can it be to read the sourcecode of silica? In the header they say its BSD license the rest we don't know yet.

But as stated already by many is that the core apps will probadly not be open. Also I do not expect all drivers be open especially not GFX (no one has open GFX drivers on embedded this days)

Sry, but I'm not already keen with the rpm stuff

Is there any counterpart of /usr/share/doc where the license file are given?

mikecomputing | # 797 | 2013-07-27, 19:09 | Report

Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post

Sry, but I'm not already keen with the rpm stuff

Is there any counterpart of /usr/share/doc where the license file are given?

Most ofthe source are in the emulator and the SDK remember its QML

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mikecomputing | # 798 | 2013-07-27, 21:47 | Report

Don't remember lf rockchip has been mentioned, but because vgrade has got a new toy rk3188 mentioned on twitter I got to check it and realized that rockchip is a Chinese company and also has mobile SoC. start made me think maybe its Jollaphone has some kind on rk3xxx chip?

http://liliputing.com/2013/01/rockch...f-of-2013.html

http://www.rock-chips.com/index.php?lang=en

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qwazix | # 799 | 2013-07-27, 22:26 | Report

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

How hard can it be to read the sourcecode of silica? In the header they say its BSD license the rest we don't know yet.

But as stated already by many is that the core apps will probadly not be open. Also I do not expect all drivers be open especially not GFX (no one has open GFX drivers on embedded this days)

and indeed there is a possibility for fully free on mobile

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/...mobile-devices

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shmerl | # 800 | 2013-07-28, 03:10 | Report

Originally Posted by marmistrz View Post

about 2013-07-02T17:17:11.

So it's not really known for sure what about the openness of Sailfish... Do you think they'll eventually release the source code?

I hope they will. Otherwise I'd start using Nemo. I don't want a second Harmattan case...

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