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Sorry, can't agree with you here.

If you bought a car today, and the manufacturer released a new model next week with more power, better handling and braking and the fuel efficiency of a diesel engine, would you go back and demand to have the latest engine management system, the improved brakes and suspension?

When we bought our tablets, we bought a snapshot of what could be achieved then. Back in 2006, before the N800 or N810 was made/sold, did it accomplish what it was supposed to do? I'm sure it did, or you would not (or should not) have bought it.

New models come out ever so often in today's consumer-driven society, and it would be dead unreasonable to expect manufacturers to stand obliged to upgrade previous generation device. Why? Because the device that the sold you in the first place worked as it said on the box. If your needs had changed, then expect to shell out for the next generation device.

Your example with the PC is a good one -- Guess what, the very expensive notebook I bought early last year isn't Vista-compatible, but XP Professional that came with it works perfectly well. Are you saying that I should go back to Lenovo and start ranting that they SHOULD BE OBLIGED to MAKE my notebook Vista-compatible, and that I am very ANGRY with them? I don't think so

Maybe someone should offer a leasing option for consumer devices such as iPods, notebooks and Internet Tablets. It would be a perfect option for consumers who think like you.

Just registered to vote: Release yesterday, PLEASE!

770 / 2006 & 2007HE

Handful, all I can say is wow ! It's so nice to hear from and get input back and forth from a dev, unlike other devs/publishers who for some reason think that any information they provide is some kind of national secret and we as consumers should feel privileged to even use their products in the first place.

This has got to be one of the best user based communities out there, and to finally have 1 media center/player to rule all on the NIT will be great. (with the additions you spoke of, youtube integration etc)

If you bought a car today, and the manufacturer released a new model next week with more power, better handling and braking and the fuel efficiency of a diesel engine, would you go back and demand to have the latest engine management system, the improved brakes and suspension? Yes i would if the manufactuer assured me that I was buying the best they had to offer and then soon after released something better - that means they wanted to profit for me buying the car on the first lie, and then come back and purchase based on the second lie - Nokia is actually on their 3rd device within less than 3yrs. Besides I mentioned already that I would expect a performance gain from a new machine/car, but don't make it a whole new car and still call it the same thing.

As far as the PC - No I would not be mad at Lenovo - they are not responsible for software in any form. Here Nokia is responsible for the software and the hardware. They need to support both.

Well,

I'm not a Dev, but actually interaction designer =) And I think apart from Fads or trends I do believe in one thing : User Centered Design. And for me this is user centered design : letting you guys now, influence and actually change the course of development.

EG: As I am responsible for choosing the features, etc I felt that the need for more formats supported was bigger then the expected, so you will notice the difference now on, as we plan to support almost all formats in a short time frame. Also it was clear that more then bugs there are design issues, and thus I really need real feedback to create solutions, and we are very happy to be able to receive it and communicate better.

Last but not least, I think being closed source kills a lot of contribution from the developer point of view, thus I personally advocate for more freedom in the User space, where you guys contribute by using and criticizing and we answer back with clear honest feedback and patches when needed.

This will help us and most important : will keep the team "motivated" because believe me: it's all about the feedback you guys give. It looks just like game development, our goal is really to have people using. Reviews? will be different from gamer to gamer but in the end, if you can have fun with it and the "replay" factor is high we got there...And there's a long road to reach that.. but we have fuel =)

BR

Mate, at the time of advertising, yes, the Nokia N770 WAS the best that Nokia had to offer. It's not as though you were born yesterday, and not the first time you have purchased a consumer device (e.g. mobile phone, MP3 player, PDA, etc), so please, understand that there is always something else better down the line in a couple of months. Nokia sold you what they sold you -- an N770 running OS2006. That's what you paid for. Did you pay for upgrades? Is it stated anywhere in writing that you are automatically entitled to an upgrade? I didn't think so.

So what if Nokia is in their 3rd device in less than 3 years. You bought what you bought when you bought it and no one put a gun to your head to buy a tablet. And to be more accurate, while Nokia released the N800 and N810 after the N770, these two devices were targeted to different segments of the market.

If you really want to use a computer as an example, Apple would make a wonderful example of how you are not entitled to an software upgrade when new hardware is released. Remember the PowerPC? Remember how much those machines cost? I'd bet a lot of people were bummed out when Apple announced the G3 processor and how their spanking new OS would not run on PPC. But guess what? That didn't stop the PowerPC Macs from working, did it? Then people who bought G3s later realised that the Leopard only worked with the G4s. Oops, but hey, my iBook G3 still works - email, web, etc. And today, with the new processors, well, let's just say that the new OS isn't backward compatible with the G5s either.

Another example: Mitsubishi launched the Lancer Evolution (10th gen) recently. The Evolution IX was around from 2005 (and I had one), but I don't hear people complaining that their cars have stopped working or that they have suffered any performance degradation since the introduction of the new car. In fact, I drive a track-prepped Evolution VIII today, and the last time I checked, everything still works.

There's always something new announced every other day, so you can either choose to wait it out or buy whatever suits your needs today. With what people are demanding out of software these days, no software developer working on any complex piece of work would (in their right mind) develop anything based on the hardware lowest common denominator (N770). If you want good functions, then suck it up and shell out for hardware that the software can use to give you the user experience that you want.

Trust me, I can feel that you're bummed out, and I would be too, but that's the way the world turns. If you don't like it, start up your own company and lead the charge. We'll be right behind you.

Dear Handful,

I will be looking forward to tomorrow's release, and wish you and your colleagues a well deserved carnaval!!

Aye, I'm waiting for tomorrow's release too. Am converting all my files to MP4 format, so that I can get Canola 2 to use the default media player for playback of audio AND video files.

Agree completely with ghoonk, there is always something newer and better coming out - look at windows (3, 3.1, 95, 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, XP, Vista etc) or OSX or even linux for that matter, they are on release cycles of 1-2 years (for the most part without delays), Leopard just came out after all which was a $129 upgrade and tiger was released not so long ago - my wifes 1 year old ibook struggled with leopard at times without a memory upgrade, I dont think apple would have automatically exchanged the laptop because of this.

Also good luck with the car analogy you previously used, there are new models each year with newer and better features and there is not a dealer in the world who would just exchange your 2007 for a 2008 model because you complained about it... All products evolve, it is just part of the cycle. If they do not they grow stale and die!

Nokia did change the processor model in the IT's which I guess led to the current compatibility models but I am not complaining on my new N800 at all as performance and multimedia capabilities are much upgraded. Its not like intel which has pretty much had compatibility since the 286 (or 8086) - remember compatibility usually comes at a price (higher development costs or Bloat...)

Some times you just got to bite the bullet!

Handful thank you for the updates, they are much appreciated... I am looking forward to getting and using this and all future updates. It is a great product. Hopefully there will be no repository issues this time around!

At some point in time, Nokia's going to release something even nicer, and when that time comes, I've got two choices:

1. buy the new one, retire the N800 willingly (yay, new toy)
2. stick with the N800 - it still plays DivX, AVI, MP4, MP3s etc, downloads my video and MP3 podcasts, lets me browse the web, etc etc.