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    thorbo | # 1 | 2008-02-01, 20:44 | Report

    Would it be possible to use an iPod (since it is self powered) as external storage for movies, etc. and connect via the usb port... and if so, what mode would one have to use to do that (host or OTG)? I have not yet read about this being done, but perhaps I missed that post.

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    Thor

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    ghoonk | # 2 | 2008-02-01, 20:50 | Report

    IIRC, only the iPod Photo and possibly the iPod Video that followed had Disk Mode. The newer models do not have this. In theory, it may be possible to run this with OTG and a powered hub, but unlikely that the powered hub can be excluded since the iPod uses a kind of microdrive that consumes more power than normal flash devices.

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    thorbo | # 3 | 2008-02-01, 21:07 | Report

    Well, I was thinking of the variety with HDs in them, since that could allow quite a bit of storage above and beyond what might be on the iPod itself.... hmm.

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    dubiousmike | # 4 | 2008-02-01, 21:15 | Report

    Originally Posted by ghoonk View Post
    IIRC, only the iPod Photo and possibly the iPod Video that followed had Disk Mode. The newer models do not have this. In theory, it may be possible to run this with OTG and a powered hub, but unlikely that the powered hub can be excluded since the iPod uses a kind of microdrive that consumes more power than normal flash devices.
    Would it require a powered hub where the iPod itself is battery powered?

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    sjgadsby | # 5 | 2008-02-01, 21:19 | Report

    Originally Posted by thorbo View Post
    Would it be possible to use an iPod (since it is self powered) as external storage for movies, etc. and connect via the usb port... and if so, what mode would one have to use to do that (host or OTG)?
    tz1 made a short post about this in another thread. According to that post, older iPods with Firewire ports work as they don't try to recharge themselves when connected via USB. Newer, USB-only iPods want more USB power than the tablets provide and won't work without a powered hub between themselves and the Internet tablet.

    You'd use host mode in either case.

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    Last edited by sjgadsby; 2008-02-01 at 21:21. Reason: Cleaning up a sentence

     
    thorbo | # 6 | 2008-02-01, 21:26 | Report

    Perhaps then a cable that would not allow them to charge (tape on the pin as a test or something) would be the answer... I mean, they should function, even if they are not able to charge, I would think -- although I have one of the older ones, so that is not an issue for me... something to play with this weekend. Woo hoo....

    Thor

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    ghoonk | # 7 | 2008-02-01, 21:35 | Report

    Originally Posted by dubiousmike View Post
    Would it require a powered hub where the iPod itself is battery powered?
    probably not, my bad

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    tz1 | # 8 | 2008-02-01, 21:38 | Report

    iPod Video requires a powered hub.

    iPod Photo requires a powered hub (but can use Firewire - I need to test FW power, USB access)

    The requirement for a powered hub is because these iPods ask for enough current to charge the device, not merely enough to communicate.

    iPod "4 red led buttons above wheel" uses USB only for data will work stand-alone as an external disk (I've seen these called 2nd and 3rd generation). The battery does drain faster than playing music though.

    Original iPod is FW only.

    Mac partitioned iPods either require some hackage (bind sdX to loop device offset to data partition, insmod hfsplus, mount loop device), or a kernel which supports Mac partitions, which I reported as a bug which you can vote for:

    https://bugs.maemo.org/votes.cgi?act...2815#vote_2815

    The main advantage to HFS+ is support for >4Gb files, so DVD images and such can be stored without hassle. It also allows symlinks and other things available in ext2 or ntfs. (You need to turn of journaling to mount it R/W).

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    sd_proto | # 9 | 2008-02-21, 08:26 | Report

    I just tried connecting my ipod video with a host mode adapter and after a minute got a message that said "unable to connect: no file system available". This was *without* a hub. I hadn't considered the charging requirement, but I guess that confirms you need at least a hub and possibly a hack to make the filesystem readable.

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