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    shmerl | # 821 | 2013-08-02, 21:26 | Report

    I doubt "licensing Sailfish" is a good model at all. They need something else. Partnerships, etc. Mozilla for example doesn't "license" Firefox OS - it's fully open source. Still, they have partners. How exactly does it work?

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    nodevel | # 822 | 2013-08-03, 00:25 | Report

    Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
    Partnerships, etc. Mozilla for example doesn't "license" Firefox OS - it's fully open source. Still, they have partners. How exactly does it work?
    How does it work?
    Mozilla is a non-profit organization, so it's a completely different situation. I doubt that Jolla would want to have no profit at all

    Plus who would choose Firefox if it wasn't free - it doesn't bring anything new or revolutionary after all...

    But I agree having more (partner) developers on board is a good idea, especially at this stage.

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    jalyst | # 823 | 2013-08-03, 04:51 | Report

    Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
    From here: https://sailfishos.org/about-license.html
    So hopefully they won't lose the momentum and won't retain their applications and UI closed source.
    In this talk....
    http://kde-app.mirror.uber.com.au/ak...ilfish_OS.webm
    Or maybe it was this one...
    http://files.kde.org/akademy/2013/vi...er_and_Qt.webm
    The Jolla employee seemed very sure that it'll eventually become mostly open (if not 100%).
    Orig. source:
    http://files.kde.org/akademy/2013/videos/

    Originally Posted by shmerl View Post
    I doubt "licensing Sailfish" is a good model at all. They need something else. Partnerships, etc.
    Mozilla for example doesn't "license" Firefox OS - it's fully open source. Still, they have partners. How exactly does it work?
    Much of this area is covered [fairly] well in the MeR video I linked above.

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    mikecomputing | # 824 | 2013-08-03, 09:11 | Report

    Originally Posted by jalyst View Post
    In this talk....
    http://kde-app.mirror.uber.com.au/ak...ilfish_OS.webm
    Or maybe it was this one...
    http://files.kde.org/akademy/2013/vi...er_and_Qt.webm
    The Jolla employee seemed very sure that it'll eventually become mostly open (if not 100%).
    Orig. source:
    http://files.kde.org/akademy/2013/videos/



    Much of this area is covered [fairly] well in the MeR video I linked above.
    Don't forget that employer does not always knows companys fully strategy. After all they are engineers not bosses.

    but i scares me that jolla seems to not fully have a longer strategy mens after first phone release. After all they need some kind of bussiness model especially if they go fully opensource..

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    jalyst | # 825 | 2013-08-03, 13:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
    Don't forget that employer does not always knows companys fully strategy. After all they are engineers not bosses
    He said it quite emphatically, like he's spoken to senior management & they're in agreement.
    Find the snippet I'm talking about...
    Of course things could change, that's always a very real (& understandable) possibility.

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    but i scares me that jolla seems to not fully have a longer strategy mens after first phone release. After all they need some kind of bussiness model especially if they go fully opensource..
    Agreed, not enough detail there, hopefully we'll hear much more, & sooner rather than later.

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    marmistrz | # 826 | 2013-09-03, 18:55 | Report

    Just wondering.. I have 20 pages of apps.... And how could I get quickly to the multitasking? Some pull stuff should be in the middle too.

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    RX-51 | # 827 | 2013-09-07, 22:12 | Report

    A nice "other half" would be an e-ink display. One company introduced its own solution for various mobiles on the IFA:



    google translated version:
    http://translate.google.de/translate...951841&act=url

    original article in german:
    http://heise.de/-1951841

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    Rugoz | # 828 | 2013-09-08, 04:21 | Report

    In the light of recent developments I think Jolla has a slight chance to establish itself on the market.

    - The NSA leaks have shown that Android (or better the services that come along with it) is basically spyware for the american government.

    - Microsoft is now a hardware maker, hence others will likely refrain from doing WP phones in the future.

    - In general handset makers may want to become indepenent of Google services in the longer term, i.e. be able to pick whatever service-provider they'd like.

    Of course they could also use Ubuntu Mobile or an Android fork, however at least the latter comes with known problems.

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    kollin | # 829 | 2013-09-08, 07:10 | Report

    My concern is that i'll get a Jolla phone and afterwards Nokia will buy them and I'll be forced (again) to deal with their stupid policies.

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    jalyst | # 830 | 2013-09-08, 07:20 | Report

    Originally Posted by RX-51 View Post
    A nice "other half" would be an e-ink display. One company introduced its own solution for various mobiles on the IFA:



    google translated version:
    http://translate.google.de/translate...951841&act=url

    original article in german:
    http://heise.de/-1951841
    I'd still prefer a dedicated e-reader at around novel size, i.e. 7".
    But I can see how it'd be appealing to some...

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