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2008-02-02
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#102
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Flareup :
"ah well, I know it's beta an all but not good. maybe there should be a "not simple to uninstall" warning."
The problem flareup, is that is simple to unninstall, but if there's a mess of repositories, it will fail, thus is not a specific canola problem, but the way things are organized and user behavior.
We cannot predict every users's action :/
"my two pee on the thing - looks nice, bu without playlist creation/editing functionality doesn't really add fnctionality. video playback messed up and froze device, which is why I'm (attempting) to uninstall."
Yeah, it's a bugfix release, not feature release and features are coming.
Video playback froze? We have been listen for a couple of other users this, and there's a reboot warning (you need the engine to be replaced) so it could be that you had the old engine working, because the player of the video itself is either mplayer or the default media player.
But no worries at all, because maemo gives everyone choices, and they are in better shape then us at the moment that we are beta
1) default media player
2) ukmp (from konttori - it has the downloads, cover, and uses mplayer for playback )
3) kagu
4) mediabox
(what I really like is that they are all python like us ! )
We just can't let the platform lost users because of this =) =)
BR
@eaaronp : do you have mplayer? Mplayr takes care of the control.. so we cannot do much for now (we are investigating ways of improving our relationship with it)
but :
on video < and > should be SEEK not next and prev. Something is bugged.. we will fix it!
Marcelo
"ah well, I know it's beta an all but not good. maybe there should be a "not simple to uninstall" warning."
The problem flareup, is that is simple to unninstall, but if there's a mess of repositories, it will fail, thus is not a specific canola problem, but the way things are organized and user behavior.
We cannot predict every users's action :/
"my two pee on the thing - looks nice, bu without playlist creation/editing functionality doesn't really add fnctionality. video playback messed up and froze device, which is why I'm (attempting) to uninstall."
Yeah, it's a bugfix release, not feature release and features are coming.
Video playback froze? We have been listen for a couple of other users this, and there's a reboot warning (you need the engine to be replaced) so it could be that you had the old engine working, because the player of the video itself is either mplayer or the default media player.
But no worries at all, because maemo gives everyone choices, and they are in better shape then us at the moment that we are beta
1) default media player
2) ukmp (from konttori - it has the downloads, cover, and uses mplayer for playback )
3) kagu
4) mediabox
(what I really like is that they are all python like us ! )
We just can't let the platform lost users because of this =) =)
BR
@eaaronp : do you have mplayer? Mplayr takes care of the control.. so we cannot do much for now (we are investigating ways of improving our relationship with it)
but :
on video < and > should be SEEK not next and prev. Something is bugged.. we will fix it!
Marcelo
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2008-02-03
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#103
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Just installed Canola2 on fresh OS2007HE N770
When I play the included Discovery video the video opens in small dimensions in the top left corner of the screen, not in the black square in the centre of the screen
The application is also unusably slow.
I have to sit and wait several minutes when opening picture/video/song list (each has 2 or 3 items only) and for example if i look at my images i have to click the next image, wait 5 mins, see image, click next, wait 5 mins etc.
The initial loading (after canola opens) also takes a logn time
Last edited by Denvar; 2008-02-03 at 01:37.
When I play the included Discovery video the video opens in small dimensions in the top left corner of the screen, not in the black square in the centre of the screen
The application is also unusably slow.
I have to sit and wait several minutes when opening picture/video/song list (each has 2 or 3 items only) and for example if i look at my images i have to click the next image, wait 5 mins, see image, click next, wait 5 mins etc.
The initial loading (after canola opens) also takes a logn time
Last edited by Denvar; 2008-02-03 at 01:37.
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2008-02-03
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#104
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Marcelo,
Thanks to you and the Canola team for this release. I look forward to the day when it is feature complete, but it seems that there is enough working to make it a viable media app.
I have had a couple of issues:
When I had Canola-Tuning pull album covers it put the same cover on all of the Podcasts I had saved in my Music folder (the cover for LUGRadio, which if you are going to pick a Podcast picture to use is a good podcast, but not what the Podcasts actually were.)
I got this error:
IO error (errno 21): Is a directory
trying to download this podcast: http://feeds.waywordradio.org/awwwpodcast
but had success with all of the other podcasts I tried.
I have one album that I ripped with soundjuicer, that is not showing up in Canola. It is an mp3, and the info shows up on my desktop. Not sure why I can't see it in Canola. All of my other music seems to appear.
And I have a few questions/feature requests:
-How do I tell if there are new podcasts to download without going to each podcast and checking?
-Can I mark a podcast as viewed/listened to, so when a new podcast shows up I know to go download it? (all of the podcast feeds I've added are showing episodes I've already downloaded with the feedreader, and I don't want to download them again)
-I would like to be able to create a playlist from my downloaded podcasts so that I can put a list together before I start driving. I have an hour long commute, and it is tough if a podcast ends to have to navigate to another one to start it playing (and dangerous).
-I also think it would be nice to have a list of all downloaded podcasts, so that I don't have to navigate to each podcast to see which I haven't seen/listened to, but have been downloaded.
Thanks again for the great work,
Hal
Thanks to you and the Canola team for this release. I look forward to the day when it is feature complete, but it seems that there is enough working to make it a viable media app.
I have had a couple of issues:
When I had Canola-Tuning pull album covers it put the same cover on all of the Podcasts I had saved in my Music folder (the cover for LUGRadio, which if you are going to pick a Podcast picture to use is a good podcast, but not what the Podcasts actually were.)
I got this error:
IO error (errno 21): Is a directory
trying to download this podcast: http://feeds.waywordradio.org/awwwpodcast
but had success with all of the other podcasts I tried.
I have one album that I ripped with soundjuicer, that is not showing up in Canola. It is an mp3, and the info shows up on my desktop. Not sure why I can't see it in Canola. All of my other music seems to appear.
And I have a few questions/feature requests:
-How do I tell if there are new podcasts to download without going to each podcast and checking?
-Can I mark a podcast as viewed/listened to, so when a new podcast shows up I know to go download it? (all of the podcast feeds I've added are showing episodes I've already downloaded with the feedreader, and I don't want to download them again)
-I would like to be able to create a playlist from my downloaded podcasts so that I can put a list together before I start driving. I have an hour long commute, and it is tough if a podcast ends to have to navigate to another one to start it playing (and dangerous).
-I also think it would be nice to have a list of all downloaded podcasts, so that I don't have to navigate to each podcast to see which I haven't seen/listened to, but have been downloaded.
Thanks again for the great work,
Hal
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2008-02-03
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#105
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A few issues in the new beta
The first is the most major one, I think its on the tracker, but I wanted to reiterate it because of how important it is: when playing an album, the volume doesn't stick from track to track. When Canola moves to the next track, it puts it at full volume, and the only way to go back to the previous volume is to touch the slider. This is a HUGE issue for the many of us using headphones, I don't want to lose my hearing because my media player keeps increasing the volume all the time.
Secondly. I said this on another thread, but the cover art view doesn't work very well. Sure it looks very nice, but its very counterintuitive. Instead of going all the way from the left to the right, and then back to the left to go in alphabetical order, it should go up-down, then left to right. I know this is the opposite of how one would read, but it makes absolutely no sense to do all that scrolling from one side of the list to the other, and then have to go all the way back to the left to continue alphabetically.
Finally, the one internet radio station I actually use isn't working with Canola. The link is http://www.nj.com/ram/wsou/wsou.rpm but this is just a text file that links to the actual stream. The rpm doesn't work in the Maemo media player at all, but the actual stream does work. The stream that should work is rtsp://helix.nj.com/broadcast/njo/maggot/one.rm . However, Canola tells me that it can't find a feed for this stream.
All in all, great work though. Hopefully an FM tuner plugin will come soon
The first is the most major one, I think its on the tracker, but I wanted to reiterate it because of how important it is: when playing an album, the volume doesn't stick from track to track. When Canola moves to the next track, it puts it at full volume, and the only way to go back to the previous volume is to touch the slider. This is a HUGE issue for the many of us using headphones, I don't want to lose my hearing because my media player keeps increasing the volume all the time.
Secondly. I said this on another thread, but the cover art view doesn't work very well. Sure it looks very nice, but its very counterintuitive. Instead of going all the way from the left to the right, and then back to the left to go in alphabetical order, it should go up-down, then left to right. I know this is the opposite of how one would read, but it makes absolutely no sense to do all that scrolling from one side of the list to the other, and then have to go all the way back to the left to continue alphabetically.
Finally, the one internet radio station I actually use isn't working with Canola. The link is http://www.nj.com/ram/wsou/wsou.rpm but this is just a text file that links to the actual stream. The rpm doesn't work in the Maemo media player at all, but the actual stream does work. The stream that should work is rtsp://helix.nj.com/broadcast/njo/maggot/one.rm . However, Canola tells me that it can't find a feed for this stream.
All in all, great work though. Hopefully an FM tuner plugin will come soon
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2008-02-03
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Joined on Aug 2005
@ Recife, Brazil
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#106
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Marcelo,
Thanks to you and the Canola team for this release. I look forward to the day when it is feature complete, but it seems that there is enough working to make it a viable media app.
I have had a couple of issues:
When I had Canola-Tuning pull album covers it put the same cover on all of the Podcasts I had saved in my Music folder (the cover for LUGRadio, which if you are going to pick a Podcast picture to use is a good podcast, but not what the Podcasts actually were.)
1) avoid your podcast to be scanned (but of course you may say you don't want to do that...) and then in next versions will you will be able to download a picture and pick from file to "apply" to a podcast....
2) maybe we can add to the edit form a "Apply image to this podcast" then you can also choose the best image for the task, but this actually is not that different from the first solution
I got this error:
IO error (errno 21): Is a directory
trying to download this podcast: http://feeds.waywordradio.org/awwwpodcast
but had success with all of the other podcasts I tried.
I have one album that I ripped with soundjuicer, that is not showing up in Canola. It is an mp3, and the info shows up on my desktop. Not sure why I can't see it in Canola. All of my other music seems to appear.
And I have a few questions/feature requests:
-How do I tell if there are new podcasts to download without going to each podcast and checking?
-Can I mark a podcast as viewed/listened to, so when a new podcast shows up I know to go download it? (all of the podcast feeds I've added are showing episodes I've already downloaded with the feedreader, and I don't want to download them again)
Also the playlist is going to be available maybe not on this one.. but in the second update. It seems simple but we want to make sure it's not only a playlist editor.. but a component that can be used by plugins.
-I would like to be able to create a playlist from my downloaded podcasts so that I can put a list together before I start driving. I have an hour long commute, and it is tough if a podcast ends to have to navigate to another one to start it playing (and dangerous).
-I also think it would be nice to have a list of all downloaded podcasts, so that I don't have to navigate to each podcast to see which I haven't seen/listened to, but have been downloaded.
Thanks again for the great work,
Hal
BR
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http://openbossa.indt.org
Marcelo Eduardo
www.marceloeduardo.com
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OpenBossa Labs @ INdT, Recife Brazil
http://openbossa.indt.org
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2008-02-03
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#107
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Just installed Canola2 on fresh OS2007HE N770
When I play the included Discovery video the video opens in small dimensions in the top left corner of the screen, not in the black square in the centre of the screen
We can try to make things a little bit less worst...so
1) make sure you have swap
2) install and update mplayer to it's latest more optimized version...
The application is also unusably slow.
But he's the point : canola uses some optimization not supported by the 770, and of course a lot of drawing routines.. and loading files (like thumbnails) takes more then it should.. but we can do magic. I have my Gregale (os2006) version.. and it works. it does have a little bit of "hicups" when playing video.. but the rest is usable. Really usable.. not like the n800 or n810 but ok.
I have to sit and wait several minutes when opening picture/video/song list (each has 2 or 3 items only) and for example if i look at my images i have to click the next image, wait 5 mins, see image, click next, wait 5 mins etc.
The initial loading (after canola opens) also takes a logn time
So resuming: for sure you have something else going on.. but I will not lie, HE is complicated and we suffered a lot to release it. Unfortunately We are not able to improve much more... and we are at least happy the gregale works "nice". Maybe you can try updating things and see what happens, but I would say :
Avoid heavy (better resolution videos) try not downloading more then 1 podcast at once (it really eats the CPU) and if you can... go to gregale ... =)
I will try to filme my version running on the 770 so you can have a baseline and tell me how much slower your's is.
BR
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Marcelo Eduardo
www.marceloeduardo.com
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OpenBossa Labs @ INdT, Recife Brazil
http://openbossa.indt.org
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2008-02-03
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#108
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Is the UPNP support available now?
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2008-02-03
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#109
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Originally Posted by cycroft
Unfortunately not yet, in the meantime if you want to get UPnP working on your NIT install Media Streamer as will give you a feel for how it will/would work in Canola with a suitable UPnP Server running on a NAS or PC. (I use Twonky and/or TVersity on my PC)
Is the UPNP support available now?
You BET I Stream! 
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2008-02-03
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#110
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Use scp and get /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list from the device or use ssh to 'cat thefilehere'. Paste it. ;)
I have (btw anyway to quickly output all repos next time?)
Nokia Catalog
Nokia Catalog (3rd party software)
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HTH,
Ben
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At least now it plays music and actually will download podcasts at least, haven't tried a vidcast yet, I'm in fear at this point.
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