nokiabot | # 11 | 2013-11-04, 18:32 | Report

theres no india

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dos1 | # 12 | 2013-11-04, 18:34 | Report

Actually, no. Certification issues make the device without it (so for instance, with replaced firmware) illegal to operate on public networks in most countries on the world. Of course you can use it on your own network - for which you need a permission to run :P

Releasing the source code is not illegal, but see above.

Also, see https://trisquel.info/en/forum/true-...eo900-openmoko
I've wrote a bit about it there.

Hopefully that answers your questions. If not, I'll be happy to talk with you, but in some different topic please - don't make mess in this one.

joerg_rw | # 13 | 2013-11-04, 18:36 | Report

Please stay on topic! On a sidenote a phone with FOSS GSM stack is illegal to operate, everywhere except in anarchies where they won't have any network provider to use it in. Please stop spreading false claims here! A GSM stack needs certification and that has to be done even by the network operators. Operating a transmitter is basically illegal everywhere on the world without a licence to do so. I'd appreciate when you simply would delete your posts. They are incorreect and OT.

Daneel | # 14 | 2013-11-04, 18:37 | Report

My ultimate phone has a hardware keyboard and i'm pretty sure people like me are the target group for this project since it obviously is an upgrade to the N900, which had a hardware keyboard.

Now, if only my monthly salary was not 350 euro

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joerg_rw | # 15 | 2013-11-04, 18:46 | Report

Please stay on topic! On a sidenote a phone with FOSS GSM stack is illegal to operate, everywhere except in anarchies where they won't have any network provider to use it in. Please stop spreading false claims here! A GSM stack needs certification and that has to be done even by the network operators. Operating a transmitter is basically illegal everywhere on the world without a licence to do so. I'd appreciate when you simply would delete your posts. They are incorrect and OT.

szopin | # 16 | 2013-11-04, 18:51 | Report

Is this default answer Goldelico forces you to use whenever anyone asks about GSM stack? Screw the NSA-free part? I'll answer myself:

a phone with FOSS GSM stack is illegal to operate, everywhere except in anarchies where they won't have any network provider to use it in. Please stop spreading false claims here! A GSM stack needs certification and that has to be done even by the network operators. Operating a transmitter is basically illegal everywhere on the world without a licence to do so.

joerg_rw | # 17 | 2013-11-04, 18:55 | Report

@mods
PLEASE NUKE THE LAST 20orso POSTS!
thanks!

joerg_rw | # 18 | 2013-11-04, 21:08 | Report

btw the NSA doesn't need or want a spyware in the GSM firmware. As long as the modem works, it already does what the NSA needs, without any malware or patches. When somebody wants to spy on you, they need to make the phone pretend it's off while it isn't. For Neo900 this means they must place some spyware/malware on the linux system, not on the modem. The linux system is completely FOSS and under user's total absolute control. When the modem is off, then it's off, no malware inside modem could power it up on remote command. And particularly it could never start transmitting any data without the linux system noticing that. So it's up to user(land) to keep an eye on modem and holler when it acts strange.

On a sidenote: afaik all contemporary modem chipsets are tivoized. You can't run any firmware on them that's not signed by the owner of the private signature key, i.e. the chip manuf. Even the calypso had that option but TI didn't use it.
/j

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joerg_rw | # 19 | 2013-11-05, 16:35 | Report

which pretty fine shows what I failed to transport to your mind: STAY ON TOPIC is what you evidently missed to read and understand its meaning.

Dave999 | # 20 | 2013-11-05, 18:26 | Report

Its a burning broken NSA antenna telling the users its NSA free...

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