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parasemic | # 2051 | 2013-12-19, 04:45 | Report

It's actually pretty funny that you guys are whining about the battery life. It should be common knowledge to know they had to change chipset vendor in summer and have had around little to no time for battery life optimization.

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Kein | # 2052 | 2013-12-19, 04:53 | Report

Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post

No get rid of the android crap is first thing todo. I am sure thats one of the battery drainers. So far my phone atleast holds a day. Probadly because I have no android apps running. Not even dalvik installed...

And what apps are you going to run? Or do you use your Jolla smartphone like a Nokia dumb phone?

Bundyo | # 2053 | 2013-12-19, 05:24 | Report

Originally Posted by att View Post

In Terminal app run commands:

cd
ln -s /run/user/100000/media/sdcard .

(Notice the dot at the end of ln) After that you can access the microSD card with USB MTP (Jolla's normal PC connectivity) by going to directory "sdcard".

WFM. No warranty

Edit: (And you probably can escape to the root directory of Jolla by similar commands but I haven't tested this. There is danger that you can brick your Jolla with escaping to root and then going around and fiddling, especially if the permissions and priviledges are not right.)

The only downside of the symlink is that the size of the sdcard is not visible

Other than that works a treat with a 64GB FAT32 card.

Last edited by Bundyo; 2013-12-19 at 07:30.

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att | # 2054 | 2013-12-19, 05:48 | Report

Originally Posted by gerbick View Post

This makes me question is any testing for actual usage besides developers were even utilized.

I mean, I know their designers invariably (stereotypically) have Macs. Nobody tested that? Nobody tested a larger than 32gb SDXC card? If so, what do they think would be the consumer friendly answer - mount it, by hand, each time I reboot?

According Jolla only microSD and microSDHC cards are supported. But that doesn't mean that techically capable people cannot make microSDXC cards to work by using some of the methods presented at TMO.

I think Philippe has said that they decided to use MTP and also tested it with Mac before Apple removed support for MTP and third party MTP software.

Last edited by att; 2013-12-19 at 05:50.

gaelic | # 2055 | 2013-12-19, 05:55 | Report

Originally Posted by att View Post

That is why I put the edge word in double quotes. The problem is that Jolla's edge-case customers all have different edges they are thinking

So we are back trying to figure out what are the most common features needed at the beginning, and unfortunately WPA EAP isn't that important than the other authentication methods.

As a side note:

I also cursed when N9 didn't originally supported WPA EAP and its variants. I couldn't use the Eduroam with it. Nowaday I don't anymore care so much about Eduroam because 3G is good enough for smartphones like Jolla for many of my use cases. And in home WLAN I don't use EAP.

With LTE coming I suspect the need for WLAN will decrease in many use cases in the future. At least in coutries that have good 3G and LTE coverage.

Sorry, but that is just another attempt of an excuse. There is absolutely no reason not to support it. As already mentioned:

- it is supported by the software
- it is supported by the inofficial precedent of Jolla (the N9/N900)
- it is NOT some rare use-case
- and last but not least, why making the same mistakes all over again?

att | # 2056 | 2013-12-19, 05:58 | Report

Originally Posted by gaelic View Post

Sorry, but that is just another attempt of an excuse. There is absolutely no reason not to support it. As already mentioned:

- it is supported by the software
- it is supported by the inofficial precedent of Jolla (the N9/N900)
- it is NOT some rare use-case
- and last but not least, why making the same mistakes all over again?

Okay, I think we are going circles here. I have already answered these, and nothing has changed in the meantime.

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gaelic | # 2057 | 2013-12-19, 06:02 | Report

Originally Posted by att View Post

Okay, I think we are going circles here. I have already answered these, and nothing has changed in the meantime.

I know. Jolla is still lacking WPA EAP.

att | # 2058 | 2013-12-19, 06:03 | Report

Originally Posted by gaelic View Post

I know. Jolla is still lacking WPA EAP.

And you might get it in the future.

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gaelic | # 2059 | 2013-12-19, 06:15 | Report

Originally Posted by att View Post

And you might get it in the future.

might? Are you joking?

att | # 2060 | 2013-12-19, 06:55 | Report

Originally Posted by gaelic View Post

might? Are you joking?

I don't have Jolla's roadmaps and I don't have any foresight on their plans. Unless Jolla confirms that they will support that feature in the future, I use word "might". I expect them to implement it.

I'm getting that WPA EAP is very important for you. If you like to get your feet wet, you can download Sailfish SDK and implement your own application for configuring and enabling that feature, and then publishing it to others to try and use. At least you could get a good adventure.

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