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    att | # 2071 | 2013-12-19, 10:01 | Report

    Originally Posted by wout.martens View Post
    Also I noticed the phone is getting slower and having frame rate issue (lags) after having it used for a longer time (cache? / android?)
    I have also noticed this.

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    hemiwi | # 2072 | 2013-12-19, 10:01 | Report

    Originally Posted by strongm View Post
    You are articulating what I am beginning to feel.

    I remember when I got my N9 when it was launched I was excited and happy to show it to everyone who look and listen, and everyone (more-or-less) who saw it liked it as well. But after a couple of days use I don't really feel that way about the Jolla, although I can see the potential.
    Well if you are honest a huge point for discussion is still the Android compability. You need it now for getting people interested in SailfishOS but then it doesn't work 100% and people don't like it.

    I think in time it can be a top phone/brand with all native apps, but i do agree it is not yet a mass market device for Average Joe.

    Why? LTE / 4G, Calender integration, E-Mail, Browser etc.
    I will use for the time being Android Apps (K9 Mail, WhatsApp and Sonos) to replace my SGS2 and hope native Apps will come some (or Sailfish adds more features get rid of bugs) and delete the Dalvik in the long run.

    Just my 2 cents

    P.S.: I havn't used the phone yet to be honest - i summarised from what i have read yet

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    strongm | # 2073 | 2013-12-19, 10:03 | Report

    I miss the ability to group contacts (sorry: 'People') together, which I used to find really useful. Am I just failing to figure out how to do it, or is this a missing feature that we can expect to be implemented at a later date?

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    att | # 2074 | 2013-12-19, 10:04 | Report

    Originally Posted by hemiwi View Post
    I think in time it can be a top phone/brand with all native apps, but i do agree it is not yet a mass market device for Average Joe.

    Why? LTE / 4G, Calender integration, E-Mail, Browser etc.
    I will use for the time being Android Apps (K9 Mail, WhatsApp and Sonos) to replace my SGS2 and hope native Apps will come some (or Sailfish adds more features get rid of bugs) and delete the Dalvik in the long run.
    Average Joe doesn't need or use many of those. You are talking about technically oriented people, not average Joes.

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    hemiwi | # 2075 | 2013-12-19, 10:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by att View Post
    Average Joe doesn't need or use many of those. You are talking about technically oriented people, not average Joes.
    My wife works at TeliaSonera and i have some insight about asiakaspalvelu (customer service) - I meant as long as some things (SD Card, Calender integration, etc) don't work reliable out of the box Averga Joe won't buy or recommend that phone.

    And for Jolla to become really succesfull it needs wider audience - not us techies who will try to solve workarounds / hacks / tricks.

    Just think of deals in China - if Sailfish would be installed to other devices NOW and sold more widely...That COULD go very wrong for our fellow sailors at Jolla. And i DO WANT them to succeed and become an alternative to iOS / Android.

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    gaelic | # 2076 | 2013-12-19, 10:12 | Report

    Originally Posted by att View Post
    Average Joe doesn't need or use many of those. You are talking about technically oriented people, not average Joes.
    Do you really think many people are not using Calendar, Mail or Browser & Whatsapp?

    wtf

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    ste-phan | # 2077 | 2013-12-19, 10:13 | Report

    When I was playing 2 different web video's in 2 different browsers and saw the miniatures displaying the non-full screen video, while the audio streams were mixing, w/o delay or hickup, I had a genuine "this is the sh*t I've been waiting for" moment.

    http://sdrv.ms/18ArUtP

    Now if I could use the same multitasking potential with applications that really matter to me in the way I want.. I see a winner.. (email, voip, copy/paste, internet radio - upload some media... I am not asking much)


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    ste-phan | # 2078 | 2013-12-19, 10:20 | Report

    Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
    Do you really think many people are not using Calendar, Mail or Browser & Whatsapp?

    wtf
    out of those four, I use the browser

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    MisterMaster | # 2079 | 2013-12-19, 10:24 | Report

    Originally Posted by gaelic View Post
    Do you really think many people are not using Calendar, Mail or Browser & Whatsapp?

    wtf
    I did not know that calendar integration was so important to Average Joes. Do average Joes really use email on their phones much other than maybe reading it?

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    gaelic | # 2080 | 2013-12-19, 10:33 | Report

    Originally Posted by MisterMaster View Post
    I did not know that calendar integration was so important to Average Joes. Do average Joes really use email on their phones much other than maybe reading it?
    use email on the phone == reading email on the phone

    writing occurs only for short answers in my case.

    and that works fine for me on Sailfish still some improvements in the application will follow I'm sure.

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