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Originally Posted by gompers View Post
Did you do ANY research before you bought this thing?

I don't think that working with office docs and sending e-faxes is an advertised feature of the n8x0.

I think it's a perfectly reasonable browse-on-the-go device, though.
I agree. Is it just me, or have we just had a huge insurgence of people who bought the NIT without first doing their homework and then blaming it on the tablet?

Kolyan2k, pray tell, where in the world did you get the impression that the NIT did DOC/XLS?

Also, many of us have video running find on our NITs, and I, for one, spent a good part of a 7 hour flight watching 2007 and 2008 WRC highlights on my NIT. I challenge you to substantiate your statement.

I can't comment on the GPS, but my N800 works wonders with my Holux GPS236Slim and Maps / Maemo Mapper, and found it good enough to know that a semi-pro motorsport datalogging and analysis application can be built to run on OS2008.

rcadden is spot-on with his comments -- don't buy a damn Hummer and then go griping into the Hummer forum about how it doesn't do 30mpg if you didn't read the damn brochures to begin with.

While I have my gripes about the tablet and the couple of ESPECIALLY annoying bugs (to do with web text fields and handwriting input -- web text fields, not form fields), at least they are relevant to what is advertised to work and should be working, but aren't, and not complaining about things like OGG support, FM Radio, PIM and Office inadequacy, A2DP and PAN support.

You say the CPU is slow? That's relative. A Windows runs slowly on a Pentium III, but I find it more than adequate for DOS and probably LINUX command line. A fine balance needs to be struck between pricing, battery life, and UI, so if you want a device that's fast, small, light, has instant-on, 4 hour battery life, great video playback, GPS, then don't complain if it costs $5000.

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I think the problem that people are facing, along with myself, is that we see the potential in the "tablet" to do much more, but is obviously limited in many ways.

If you see the PSP community or the iphone community, they have taken those products and made those devices to do so much more then what they are meant to do initially. I guess people have been expecting or hoping for some of the same, specailly ones who have owned or used many of these types of 'gadgets'

I wouldn't get upset at someone, if they expect or want more out of their product.

Me personally, I feel short-changed with this product, although I still like it.

Hopefully the N850 or the final N900 comes out with EVERYTHING built in.
 
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Originally Posted by osne View Post
If you see the PSP community or the iphone community, they have taken those products and made those devices to do so much more then what they are meant to do initially. I guess people have been expecting or hoping for some of the same, specailly ones who have owned or used many of these types of 'gadgets'
I agree with this wholeheartedly. The key is that the community did it, and that's what Nokia's goal is (I think) with the Tablet experiment. Personally I think the hardware is completely there for a consumer device, save for the cam (which really should be least 1.3megapixel, and popup from the top, somewhat where the power button is, rotatable).

However, the software is what's lacking, but I see areas where this has come an extremely long way since OS2007.

In any case, Nokia provides you everything you need to create applications. There's even tutorials available showing you how to develop for Maemo, so the limitation is really only in the time that the community wishes to invest.

And I still think that giving a device a poor review based on things it wasn't designed to do is not a legitimate review. If the marketing gave you other perceptions as to what the device was able to do, then criticise the marketing, not the device.
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Originally Posted by HumanPenguin View Post
PAN and DUN have been mentioned here many times as an issue.

The whole office mobile thing. I have had CE/Win Mobile and Palm devices none of them do a very good job of office support.

But you do have the option to download the Palm emulator Free and run Documents to Go for the Palm. You will have to pay for that.

The only wat to get anything better is to run a full vista/XP UMPC and the cost there is much higher.

So I will be interested to hear what you replace the N810 with.

All that said. I do agree that with a decent office and PIM application the N810 would sell many many more. But as has also been discussed here many times. Nokia dose not sell them as enterprise devices. Pity the OSS community is not working on some sort of Pocket open office and Pocket evolution.
I've been doing a little searching and OQO Model 02 is pretty impressive. That thing can replace the whole laptop/desktop. It can even output 1920x1200 via HDMI/DVI port. so i will think about getting this used maybe. another great little PMP is Archos 605 WIFI. reviews state that its better then N800 as a web browser, much better media player, and is cheaper then N810, battery life is probably longer too.
 
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Originally Posted by Kolyan2k View Post
reviews state that its better then N800 as a web browser, much better media player, and is cheaper then N810, battery life is probably longer too.
Reviews lie. The Archos may be fantastic PMPs, but they're garbage for pretty much anything beyond that.
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Reviews lie. The Archos may be fantastic PMPs, but they're garbage for pretty much anything beyond that.
Reviews lie. I 100% agree.

I window-shopped and watched the Archos in Manhattan, NY they looked awfully nice, except they are big. I have not touched one. Kind to share your thought about Archos that "...garbage for pretty much anything..."

BTW, I dont care what the review said, I have my eeePC sitting on the floor of my desk for ages. The eeePC is cute. And that is ALL about it. I am using/carrying/fiddling/tweeking my tablets every single seconds (In front of me, are my favorite toys, 770/2007He, N800/2008Os and N810/2008Os). People posted and debated and debated about N8x0 vs eeePC ............ what suit your taste and work for you is YOUR device. Period.



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My buddy has the Archos, and he loves it for what it is - a PMP with a huge internal drive and great screen. However, when he sees me tether my N810 to my phone for data, and run apps and stuff, he's way more impressed. I don't know what model Archos he has, so I don't know if there's a higher one with bluetooth, for isntance, but I know that all these different PMPs/UMPCs really depend upon what you want the thing to do.
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The biggest problem with the Archos is that the OS just isn't intended for anything outside of PMP. So it's really good at that but everything else is A. For-pay (heck, even some codec support is for-pay), and B. Just not very good.

If PMP is what you're going to do, you can't really go wrong with the Archos, but as soon as you start trying to branch out into other things with them is gets nasty and expensive.
 
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was also checking out these devices:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/10/s...indows-mobile/
http://www.imate.com/product.aspx?product=ultimate9502

probably will be around $700-$900 which is alot
 
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I wouldn't say that the n810 lacks ways to edit office documents. Take a look at the version of kde that has been ported to OS2008. It comes with a whole bunch of applications including word and excel equivalents.
While the GPS performance isn't the best you should keep in mind that there is a possible leapyear bug in effect right now. There's also the possibilty to tether the tablet to an external gps if needed.
If you look at the forrm factor, price, screen, functions and open source aspect there's nothing that beats the n810 if you ask me.
 
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