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    mscion | # 11 | 2014-03-13, 12:45 | Report

    Originally Posted by bingomion View Post
    What would Richard 'not linux, GNU' Stallman say?
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09...an_on_android/
    How about, what does Linus think?

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    rfa | # 12 | 2014-03-13, 19:11 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    How about, what does Linus think?
    What does OP think?

    No

    Originally Posted by
    I too believe Android isn't Linux
    But following my criteria:
    • Swype Keyboard - this is the only non-negotiable item
    • removable battery
    • (micro) SD
    • Linux
    it appears that an Android phone most closely suits my needs, followed by two phones that either aren't available in Australia (Jolla) or aren't released yet (Neo900) - neither of which are suitable, as they both don't have Sywpe keyboard.

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    bingomion | # 13 | 2014-03-18, 22:04 | Report

    Originally Posted by rfa View Post
    it appears that an Android phone most closely suits my needs, followed by two phones that either aren't available in Australia (Jolla) or aren't released yet (Neo900) - neither of which are suitable, as they both don't have Sywpe keyboard.

    What about blackberry?
    It's more linux then android!

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    MartinK | # 14 | 2014-03-18, 22:17 | Report

    Originally Posted by bingomion View Post
    What about blackberry?
    It's more linux then android!
    It is based on the QNX microkernel (yes a general purpose mobile microkernel OS!) so it does not have the Linux kernel. Also has a custom set of utilities.

    tldr; it is not Linux and not even GNU

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    Dave999 | # 15 | 2014-03-18, 22:20 | Report

    i would suggest a xperia ultra. The best buy/dollar right now.(if you like big screens)

    if you want something fun that not always work. Get a jolla but you dont get quility/dollar.

    both are very strange devices and also very cool!

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    rfa | # 16 | 2014-03-19, 01:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
    i would suggest a xperia ultra. The best buy/dollar right now.(if you like big screens)

    if you want something fun that not always work. Get a jolla but you dont get quility/dollar.

    both are very strange devices and also very cool!
    Screen size? N9's is good, but haven't tried bigger. I'll try & "test drive"an experia, thanks for the suggestion.

    If Jolla's had Swype keyboard I'd import one in a heartbeat, it's costing them sales, not just mine...

    Crikey, if W8 phones had Swype I'd look very closely at a 1020...

    But really, I want a Jolla with Swype.

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    Last edited by rfa; 2014-03-19 at 18:42. Reason: spelleng

     
    Kangal | # 17 | 2014-03-19, 08:56 | Report

    Your option seems to be:

    -Nexus 5 (All options, except microSD/removable battery. You might be able to run native ubuntu or chroot it, or port Mer if you like)

    -SGS4 (Not as good as the Nexus 5. Has all options you need. Slight chance of Chroot/Native/Mer.)

    ...otherwise the options seem to be:
    - Another N9 (Pretty much an obsolete choice now)
    - N900 (Somewhat of a compromised downgrade)
    - SailOS (The only* linux device out there, but much of a let-down)

    I wouldn't consider BBX, FirefoxOS, UbuntuPhone and Tizen as choices.

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    ranbaxy | # 18 | 2014-03-19, 09:03 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    I think there has to be some clarity about what is meant by linux here. Some folks do not consider Android to be linux while others think that if the software uses a linux kernal (like Android) it is then a linux distribution like Debian and Ubuntu. See

    http://www.itworld.com/open-source/3...x-distribution

    What do you think?
    http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq...xsyswithoutgnu

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    How about, what does Linus think?
    http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#claimlinux
    http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#linusagreed

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    mscion | # 19 | 2014-03-19, 13:27 | Report

    Here's a slightly different distinction...

    http://www.linux.org/threads/the-lin...-android.5459/

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    electroaudio | # 20 | 2014-03-20, 01:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by MartinK View Post
    It is based on the QNX microkernel (yes a general purpose mobile microkernel OS!) so it does not have the Linux kernel. Also has a custom set of utilities.

    tldr; it is not Linux and not even GNU
    But it is a *nix compilant system, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX

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