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2014-08-27 , 14:38
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#91
Originally Posted by w00t View Post
You've already made it clear that you're going to court against Stskeeps because he had the audacity to call your annoying behaviour "harassment", and implied that currently you're in the process of defining what "harassment" means.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a threat.
Now that was libel, as there was no wife harassing. In case you still don't get it:

Munk -> libel
Perl -> threats
 
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2014-08-27 , 14:44
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#92
Woot. Now that you left jolla. What do really think about naming a product after the company without an extension?

And if jolla managed to deliver a second device. What would you call it?
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2014-08-27 , 14:57
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#93
Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Woot. Now that you left jolla. What do really think about naming a product after the company without an extension?

And if jolla managed to deliver a second device. What would you call it?
and since you very probably know the name and can't disclose, the question is what was the name that just didn't make it?
 
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2014-08-27 , 15:00
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#94
Originally Posted by Dave999 View Post
Woot. Now that you left jolla. What do really think about naming a product after the company without an extension?
As in, "what do you think about Jolla [the phone] having the same name as Jolla [the company]"?

I don't mind so much, given that it's all Jolla do.

Naming for subsequent products (or different lines) might make life trickier, but it'll work out somehow.
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2014-08-27 , 15:03
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#95
Originally Posted by w00t View Post
As in, "what do you think about Jolla [the phone] having the same name as Jolla [the company]"?

I don't mind so much, given that it's all Jolla do.

Naming for subsequent products (or different lines) might make life trickier, but it'll work out somehow.
Buuuu...

Ok, Let's do this the hard way. wOOt do you think about the name "Jolla" for the sequal?
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2014-08-27 , 15:35
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just have Jolla (2013) and Jolla (2015) devices. Ok for me.
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2014-08-27 , 15:53
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#97
I don't like the iPhone, but at least they keep their naming conventions very straight forward.

iPhone (1)
iPhone 3g
iPhone 3gs
iPhone 4
iPhone 4s
etc.

Hopefully Jolla keep it simple and just call the next Jolla, the Jolla 2.

Some examples of awful naming conventions. The HTC One has to have the worst, these are all actually unique devices!

HTC One V
HTC One SV
HTC One S
HTC One X
HTC One XL
HTC One +
HTC One
HTC One X+
HTC One Mini
HTC One Max
HTC One (M)
etc.

No wonder HTC sales plummeted - no one had a clue what was the name of the phone they were supposed to be buying!

Another naming convention that was awful was Symbian.

Symbian^3/Anna/Belle
Symbian^2[45]
Symbian^1/Series 60 5th Edition
Series 60 3rd Edition

Ugh, how do you even pronounce a ^ character? Just keep OS names simple and use the standard major/minor version of numbers!
 

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2014-08-27 , 15:55
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#98
Originally Posted by Morpog View Post
My comment about double accounts was about the accounts "fk_lx" and "pango", not about yours.
I am not fk_lx. I guess it really must be hard to some people that someone completely unrelated could see this kind of room for improvement at Jolla. fk_lx may be acting like an a*s, but don't let that blind you from the real issues. As I said, I came here to complement jalyst for his fine post (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=29) and now got dragged into these accusations. What's wrong with this community?

Mitä tulee fk_lx:ään, tietääkseni hän ei puhu suomea. Minä puhun, mutta yhteyteni Jollaan (ja siten fk_lx:ään) rajoittuu siihen, että ajan Jollan valomainoksen alta Ruoholahdesta säännöllisesti Stokkan parkkihalliin. Toki seuraan markkinoita ja omaan omia mielipiteitäni. NRC näyttää muuten kovin tyhjältä pelkän Jollan ja Supercellin valomainoksen voimin, eikä se Microsoftinkaan valomainos Keilaniemessä kovin kivalta näytä. Sellaista se elämä on täällä pohjantähden alla. Mämmiä.
 
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2014-08-27 , 16:03
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Originally Posted by Philippe View Post
Well that is one not very common, and unfortunate event, and that was done for a very good reason. You can even see the people in the log you pointed at agree with the action. And I do not want to comment further on this as I don't want to get sucked into that mess more than I am already. That is not out of the will to hide things, but rather personal self-preservation.
I find it troubling that common cheering would be used to justify an action.

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It is interesting how everybody who complains about Jolla openess only talks about vague tough topics we don't answer on. What are they? Maybe you just missed the answer?
That is a completely fair question. Unfortunately a lot of these events are already in the past, so they can't really be answered anymore. But you could start by explaining the SIM holder situation, I see that is still a timely one. What's the status on that?
 

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2014-08-27 , 16:12
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Originally Posted by pango View Post
But you could start by explaining the SIM holder situation, I see that is still a timely one. What's the status on that?
I am not a Jolla employee, but the situation is quite easy to describe:

Have you got a problem with SIM holder?
Contact Jolla Care and send it for repair. Period.

I don't understand what should be discussed publicly about this issue. Are customers being rejected by Jolla Care? No. Therefore I see no advantage of public discussion over such issue.

Have in mind that other companies also don't usually publicize these issues. Only exceptions are when it poses a threat to the customer (faulty car breaks, exploding cell phone batteries) - then devices are called for repair and a statement is issued so people who own the faulty product are aware of the situation.

Do you think Jolla owner who's SIM card is not working is not aware of such issue? Of course he is, if he cannot call or send SMS. For those who are not facing any SIM issues, why would they need to know about such problem?


Earlier you mentioned that I am comparing Jolla to larger companies and that startups should communicate more. I disagree - I think that it is fair to compare if Jolla wants to compete with big players and if anything, startups would deserve more tolerance, not less.
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