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#21
Originally Posted by nokiabot View Post
Get him some choclates
+1.
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
If they're Nokia chocolates, they might be expired.
If they're Microsoft chocolates, they'd taste disgusting.
If they're MeeGo chocolates, they simply don't exist =D
What about Blackberry-Siemens-or-Motorola chocolates?..
Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
If they're Apple chocolates, they'll come in a shiny wrapping, but hollow, withoutt any substance, made to an outdated recipe and outrageously overpriced
What about Nemo-Mer chocolates?
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
The N9 is somewhat limited and Harmattan runs okay on it, but SailfishOS has problems.
Seriously, what about Nemo Mobile based on Mer?
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Well yes the world is not perfect.
Neil hasn't left.

Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
If you're talking about why most people left its not because of Nokia or Android.
Or Siemens or Motorola or Blackberry...
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
Its because more and more of us get limited in our time to enjoy our hobbies.
Blame the economy or blame society. Or just blame maturity.
Blame:.. Economy. Society. Global warming. Finiteness of resources. Over-population of Earth. Bourgeois culture of the current world, where open-source is barely visible. (Software? A lot, but not much. Hardware? A bit, but a very small bit. Every-day consumer products, such as soap manufacturing? Forgotten craft.)
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
The point is this community is great but we just don't have the hardware, software and financial support as other "phone dev" communities.
We could never be as large as iPhone-Jailbreaking community or XDA-Devs.
Hell, even Nokia is dead now that all future devices will be named "Microsoft Lumia xxx".
This community has many Nokia devices: N950, N9, N900, N8x0, N7xx... That's not counting Jolla and other alternatives. One advantage of the community is ability to maintain 'old' devices in working state. Another advantage is ability to develop and port Maemo (and Mer) to different hardware (be it Neo900, or something entirely different).
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
So if you are leaving, do so at your own choice. Come back anytime. Leave again.
We don't judge. And when we do, its for satire.
I hope that this thread improves the mood of plourde, and those thinking similarly. I personally use N950 with 'latest' Nemo Mobile as everyday phone (until N900 is resurrected, and probably even then).
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
But creating a thread like this is meaningless, and is overall worse for everyone here. Its simply discouraging.
I am not an expert in psychology. Maybe, complaining aloud, and listening to responses, will improve the mood. Maybe, it will provoke a fresh burst of enthusiasm in development for N9/N950.
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#22
Hey now Wiki...
It ain't forgotten...
I make our own soaps...fun hobby actually..
Well...er...I also home bake ...garden...tend my orchards...fly...make harps and work on refurbishing antiquities and weapons...and work on weird and odd contraptions and inventions....so um...hmm...yeah...its pretty close to being forgotten...but all that kind of stuff is being forgotten because societal desire pushed and eaten up by the individual...but it doesn't mean people can't learn...it just takes time, curiosity and interest is all....oooh and (in this day and age) an epic attention span longer than 20 seconds
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#23
Originally Posted by Kangal View Post
If they're Nokia chocolates, they might be expired.
If they're Microsoft chocolates, they'd taste disgusting.
If they're MeeGo chocolates, they simply don't exist =D
I never touched any Microsoft chocolate. But I recently threw away some Nokia candy and Intel MeeGo candy both from 2011 that were lying around at home for several years. The Intel candy didn't look that well after all that time.
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Hey now Wiki...
It ain't forgotten...
I make our own soaps...fun hobby actually..
Well...er...I also home bake ...garden...tend my orchards...fly...make harps and work on refurbishing antiquities and weapons...and work on weird and odd contraptions and inventions....so um...hmm...yeah...its pretty close to being forgotten...but all that kind of stuff is being forgotten because societal desire pushed and eaten up by the individual...but it doesn't mean people can't learn...it just takes time, curiosity and interest is all....oooh and (in this day and age) an epic attention span longer than 20 seconds
Interesting... What ingredients are needed for home-made soap?.. Lye (sodium hydroxide) and oils. Reading about "cold process" (least energy consuming, most safe): lye is mixed with water, and then base oils, butters and fragrances are added. The gradual chemical reaction between the lye and the fats eventually produces a solid soap. Will try to remember this. Exact proportions will be difficult to manage.

Home baking is well-known to me. Though, mostly as sweet-baking, not as bread-baking.

Gardening is difficult when automobiles and lawn mowers are so widespread here, leaving trail of pollution and destruction.

Fly - how? Deltaplane? Gyroplane?

Harps, antiquities and weapons (archery? or rifles?)

About attention span: when I find something interesting, I either add it to Bookmarks, or leave it in my browser session. So I have browsers sessions like, 1500+ tabs long. And I may return to something several weeks later, this way...

There is lack of time. Of space. Of memory. A lot to do, at the same time.
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#25
As far as proper proportionate ingredient amounts...there are some pretty good books (older ones that is) on making homemade soaps...

As far as gardening ..in what I assume for you is an urban area...deck and balcony gardening is great ...just gotta utilize the available space....on one of the balconies of our home we have concord grape, multiple yield strawberries, and "Early Girl" tomatoes and whack more fruit and veggies ...oh and spices...an oregano plant, and rosemary....etc....what excess plants we didn't have room for in our garden... we put on our balconies.

floatplane mostly...great for hopping around out here on the coast.

I've done work on bows,quivers and rifles...especially embellishment on rifles...
My focus is mainly on refurbishment of antique blades...old bowies daggers, dirks, and the like..., court swords, damascus steel, , armour, shields and blunt bludgeoning weapons...maces and the like...yea ...lotta fun actually...
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Thank you. I will look for them.

Gardening: since there is no feasible way of checking concentration of pollutants in air-berries-tomatoes, I do not trust the city to not make the fruits-vegetables poisonous. In old times, we had a Geiger counter to measure pollution in potatoes But it was lost (or forgotten?) behind due to multiple moves (flights) from one place to another.

Currently, due to devastating lawn mowing practiced by most people around us, I would enjoy growing native plants and bush in our front-yard, to make the place green refuge for birds and bats and other native 'wildlife'. However, it is difficult to find plants hardy and fast-growing enough to survive every-day stomping, and every-month cutting-mowing.

I have a 'balcony' above the window, where some plants are in their pots. But, they tend to disappear. Either lack of water for a month, or abundance of rain during a week, or cold winter, or too sunny place... I do not know. But some of them do survive, still. But they need to grow larger before I risk putting them below human feet.

Ideally, I would find a plant which would climb up and all over a smooth wall. Without any nails, threads, or guiding support. I have even seen such a plant. It sticks to wall like a gecko-lizard. Maybe, I will try to get seeds from it, or just a branch... using tendrils which also produce adhesive pads at the end that attach themselves quite strongly to the support, (Parthenocissus)

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Ideally, I would find a plant which would climb up and all over a smooth wall. Without any nails, threads, or guiding support.
Common ivy. Impossible to kill. Even when cut completely down, it will regrow from the root.

They sell them in garden centres.
 
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Ach...no worries wiki
Our climate out here is pretty good yr round and the air quality on the island is 1000x better than the continent ...same with the water up here mid island...As far as air pollutions go in urban and dense areas..or extremes of heat or cold...or remem to water....best suggestions would be to utilize indoor window sill space that has good access to natural light...esp for starting veggies in the spring...some are good such as herbs ...permanently indoors in a window...also there are some real affordable, space saving and energy saving and stylish looking indoor micro hydroponic setups to grow your own fruit and veggies....also washing your veggies is always a good idea even when it comes from your own garden...um...what else...there are easily assembled and cheap greenhouse attachments for your window or even small dollhouse-like greenhouses for single and multiple plants....hm....oh yea...as far as plants that climb....beans!...easily trained to grow vertically...you can train alot of veggies to grow against a wall...tomatoes...train many fruit trees to do the same...esp on a southern exposure...it'll increase growth done on a wall...and your yield...Romans were the masters...huge on growing fruit and grape and vegetables on deliberately built walls...some walls built to shelter from the wind so the other walls built to have a maximum exposure to the sun.... and so grow the Mediterranean produce ... in extreme northern climates where such plants should have been impossible to grow
And if it is that destructive an environment to flora where you are...don't aim ever to put anything within boot or mower or hand reach of anyone other than yourself...waste of time at this juncture in this...general civilization/ societal/ collective time...at the moment...for now anyway...in the future we may change our collective behaviour.
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Heheh yup...pichlo...you got it right man ..on the continent you don't find it much......over here on the island it grows like stink everywhere ...same as Broom (imported) and Arbutus trees (indigenous)...only other place in the world other than the U.K. ...odd really...these indigenous plants here half a world away from their relatives....we don't call it common though...we call it English Ivy....resilient in drought and tough and hardy all around once it has taken....it'll eat buildings though...
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
over here on the island it grows like stink everywhere....resilient in drought and tough and hardy all around once it has taken....it'll eat buildings though...
I swear I've seen them before:
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...e_Blargidy.jpg
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