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    sjgadsby | # 61 | 2008-02-24, 01:48 | Report

    This release did not find my MPEG-4 audio files, though they were found by, and played in, previous C2 betas. MP3 files in the same directories did work with this beta.

    Also, after installing this beta, my tablet began freezing frequently even when no applications were running. I think it's probably just a coincidence, but my tablet hasn't frozen since I uninstalled Canola via the clean up app. (Attempting to simply uninstall Canola 2 via the Application Manager stalled at about 5%.)

    This was the first I'd tried Canola since my last reflash.

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    handful | # 62 | 2008-02-24, 01:51 | Report

    Hi SJ :
    Strange this problem of not finding the mpeg-4 files... we indeed updated the LMS (scanner) so this maybe related, could you please send one or 2 of your files so we can add to the test list? (Private message me for my email)

    About the freezing, I haven't received bugs about that yet, but if you can find a way.
    but it really seems even more that there's something happening now and then in the installation (not for everyone) like corrupted packages being accepted as good by the application installer resulting on broken installations... that leads to problems.

    So, did you install other applications before installing canola on your last reflash ?

    Br

    Marcelo

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    handful | # 63 | 2008-02-24, 02:01 | Report

    @Opposite of ignorance : The cleanup is in the application installer, if you have MAEMO extras, it's there for install. just click "browse installable applications"

    @E-motions : we always give you a hard time hun? Can you send some more info? like trying to execute it on the Xterm and tell us what happens?

    I think in xterm it will be albumcover something.. just type the beggining and press TAB.

    Let us know.

    I think I will hold the next beta at least for a week of just testing, but I really want you all to know, we only deploy when tested, and it's amazing how many of you fall into problems that we are not able to reproduce : /

    I really think we should go "one big file installation" or our own installer.. it's not possible that this only happens here and then : /

    Marcelo

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    Laughing Man | # 64 | 2008-02-24, 02:14 | Report

    I have two questions.

    Is it possible to set the clock to AM/PM instead of 24 hour?

    And is it possible to turn off scanning in the future? I love how it picks up on any changes in the beginning but when I'm trying to use it as a media player it's slightly annoying having to wait for it to scan. (though I suppose I could just use the built in media player). But it's nice having a beautiful GUI to show off. Especially when people are flashing off their iPod touches.

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    e-motion | # 65 | 2008-02-24, 02:22 | Report

    Originally Posted by handful View Post
    @Opposite of ignorance : The cleanup is in the application installer, if you have MAEMO extras, it's there for install. just click "browse installable applications"

    @E-motions : we always give you a hard time hun? Can you send some more info? like trying to execute it on the Xterm and tell us what happens?

    I think in xterm it will be albumcover something.. just type the beggining and press TAB.

    Let us know.

    I think I will hold the next beta at least for a week of just testing, but I really want you all to know, we only deploy when tested, and it's amazing how many of you fall into problems that we are not able to reproduce : /

    I really think we should go "one big file installation" or our own installer.. it's not possible that this only happens here and then : /

    Marcelo
    Just found out that Album cover works only if connected to the internet... Wasn't the case before.

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    handful | # 66 | 2008-02-24, 02:22 | Report

    @Laughing Man

    clock to AM/PM : there's no option to change that now, I will see how can we add this.

    About scanning in beginning : we will do that, but the thing is not about the changes itself, it was a security check for integrity, to prevent crashes, but I do not agree with that in the beginning for everyone, so I asked this feature, so we will try to add a "Auto Scan" Off on the settings, but people will be then responsible for Canola not finding their media so go to settings and refresh to do it... Also, a future home applet can make this easier.

    I understand your point, and I was personally against the check on start up. And it's complicated to deal with the consequences, because if things start going wrong people complains a lot and forget that they didn't want te scan at all

    Marcelo

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    Samaritan | # 67 | 2008-02-24, 08:17 | Report

    Having learned about the new beta5 of Canola2, I decided to try it and wanted to uninstall previous - beta 1 - from my N800. The answer was "Cannot uninstall canola2. Some modules are needed for other applications. Which were libecore0-evas (0.9.9.041+cvs200712200-maemo.7) and livedje0 (0.5.042-maemo1). I checked the list of installed stuff and saw none of the two libs. What is to be done to uninstall Canola?

    =====

    Problem solved. The installation of Beta5 above the older Canola eliminateted the capricious Beta1 and uninstall became possible.

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    handful | # 68 | 2008-02-24, 11:09 | Report

    Hi Samaritan,

    Sorry for the incovenience, but more than just be happy about you making it, we need to know what caused it : / can you send us a list of repositories you had? and the applications you had installed? This is the starting point, as we setup devices like those to test and try to find the installation problems.

    Thanks...

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    MikeL | # 69 | 2008-02-24, 11:29 | Report

    Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    Tried to update Canola2 to beta 5 on my Nokia 770 running latest version of OS2006. During the "Update install failure" via application manager the following details are provided :-

    Code:
    Unable to update canola2
    Will not install due to packages missing
      liblightmediascanner0 = 0.1.3-maemo1
    conflict with packages
      lightmediascanner0-id3lib
    OK, running the "Canola2 Cleanup" tool on my Nokia 770 worked perfectly, solved the problem and I was able to install Canola2 at beta 5 and Canola Tuning on latest version of OS2006. (The Canola Cleanup tool should be easily found in the application Manager if you have Canola2 installed already on your device)

    I did need to "Hard Re-boot" the Nokia 770 after installation of Canola2 to ensure underlying elements were set up correctly. (i.e to actually playback with sound, mp3 files that Canola2 could see)

    Canola2 appeared to Lock up when trying to play "Discovery.avi" (Could not traverse menu structure with stylus or hardware keys) requiring battery to be removed to close unit. (On/off button ineffective) Further testing seems to suggested that waiting for a long time, the device will eventually recover.

    Therefore my personal conclusion is that Canola2 beta 5 would be fine for Music and Photos, but I would definitely not promote using it to play movies on the Nokia 770 as the combination of mplayer and Canola UI seems makes the Nokia 770 totally unresponsive. [Just use mplayer on its own as it works well ]

    Be aware that mp3's currently seem to take a little time to start the first track playback when you have just started Canola2 for that session (Once first track is played, seems more responsive) Photos are fine but if you attempt to use the new zoom feature (Which works well) Canola 2 can become unresponsive. (Not as unresponsive as with movies)

    I also noted some problems with sound level being out of sync with player indicated level at times, which appeared to be solved by adjusting sound level in UI.

    I have not tested podcasts and Iradio on Nokia 770 using Canola2 Beta5

    Beta5 release of Canola2 whilst providing more of the latest added features, seems to make Canola2 too unstable for use on the Nokia 770's Hardware. YMMV

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    El Amir | # 70 | 2008-02-24, 12:33 | Report

    I had a real BIG problem with Beta 3 (media wouldnt play) now its ALL good. Thanks TEAM Canola !
    Keep up with the good work !
    Cant wait for youtube and pick from file cover art...

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