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#2961
Yeah I read up on that not so long ago now...
There is always hope..
We have the tech...
and we are developing it better and better all the time...
whether we utilize it properly to save our species and ...well... every other species as well ...from extinction ...regardless of a monetary profit margin or stock market dividend ...that is the question...
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#2962
Here's the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k
http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/...-of-the-world/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christop...-green-people/

Yeah, apparently he estimates the transition will require roughly 2 Billion of those batteries AND plus solar panels.

2,000 Million PowerPacks x US$3,500 = US$7,000 Billion (or much less)
I estimate with the use of larger PowerPack, and products from cheaper companies, we can expect it to cost roughly US$5,000 Billion, and subsidies will probably knock-off another $1,000 Billion. So it could be as cheap as $4,000 Billion. That's VERY cheap.
However, it doesn't include the Solar Panels or Installation.... and that will make it much more expensive.

That 2 Billion units is a huge figure, but its actually small when you think about:
- How many Android smartphones get sold each year (500+ Million low-end)
- How many Android superphones get sold each year (300 Million mid/high end)
- How many iPhones get sold each year (210 Million)
- How many Android tablets/iPads/iPods (160 + 65 + 16 = 241 Million)
- How many Macs/Chromebooks/Windows (5 + 5 + 305 Million = 315 Million)
- How many cars get sold each year (70 Million)

So just looking at those items, we already manufacture and buy about 1.5 Billion units of those items yearly. So manufacturing battery packs at mass scale isn't unfeasible.

People upgrade phones once a year. Most people upgrade iPods, iPads, Tablets, PCs, Macs every two years. And upgrade cars every ten years. That's the cycle for most people.

So if everybody skipped upgrading their phone, ipod, ipad, tablet, PC, and Mac... for simply two years... and instead invested in the battery, that part of the equation will be solved. Then its the Solar Panel installation costs, which can be budgeted by holding off upgrading the car a little longer.

So it seems, this is a viable solution. Mostly viable for the top 5% wealthiest people, ie/ anybody living in a developed country that is self sufficient. It would be very helpful for those in remote locations. Though I'm not sure how it would help the other percentage of people who live in big cities in poor conditions like most people in South America, Middle East, India, China, South-East Asia in particular.

Hindsight is 20/20, if 50+ years ago, we focused on solar power and battery technology instead of nuclear power we probably would've funded and supplied the worldwide units. And Climate Change would be in a much healthier state than now, and it would be recovering year by year. The Atomic Bomb (Manhattan Project) is more devastating than I had anticipated.
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#2963
I completely agree with you Kangal..
7 trillion - 10 trillion even ...is nothing...hell the U.S. spends more annually.
The survival of our species...the ability of our future generations for at least 100's of thousands if not hundreds of millions of years to literally not suffer and struggle through a truly horrendous Anthropocene .. epoch of Man. Meaning we're it...pretty much all that is left ..other than what species we can "keep" alive...and those that are aggressive survivors...some insects, the jellies, rats ..etc..
As a species we see our reflected selves in our environment and "others"... than ourselves...meaning the bio-diverse companions we have always had with us. How mad will we go without them?..without our friends? ....with only a crowded planet ...no room to turn without seeing another human in front of you from over-crowding.
It really is two epochs in one...the Anthropocene - the Age of Man and the Eremozoic - the Age of Loneliness (meaning when other creatures are brushed aside or driven off the planet)
A horror no sum of money should be too big to stop.
The figures you mention are a pittance...hell any figure is a pittance when compared.

Nuclear has it's place and purpose.

The true evil is the laziness we have been afflicted with from oil.
The manpower and man hours of labour equivalent from a barrel of oil pulled out of the ground are far too tempting.
The speed technologically that oil has catapulted us ...as much as the damage done ecologically..is fascinating..
I read a great book specifically on the topic a year or so ago...
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242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
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#2964
Ohh...I love nevada...aliens and Area 51

Whats you take on the new images?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/scienc...article/432813
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#2965
Ach!...
Dave can't you tell a hoax when you see one?
If you use some pro photo tools and zoom in...
the furry mitt o' the Sasquatch taking the photo is in the corner of the pic. ..
Big paws...small camera...typical of S'qautcheseseses..
hm..typical of S'quatchi? ...or is it like goose = geese ...moose = meese...S'quatch = S'queetch?
Anyway ..enough of pluralization...
Where is juiceme!?!?!
We need apostropheria!

Oooooh!
And a poll Dave!
We need a poll...
haven't had a decent one in a while...
Sorry Kangal I can't call your "Dragonball Z-esque" cooperative-animal-platoon-battles-poll a "poll"
ach!...
Not enough "apostropheria" ...
Juicemmmeeeeee !
we need more here man.
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Ach!...
Dave can't you tell a hoax when you see one?
If you use some pro photo tools and zoom in...
the furry mitt o' the Sasquatch taking the photo is in the corner of the pic. ..
Big paws...small camera...typical of S'qautcheseseses..
hm..typical of S'quatchi? ...or is it like goose = geese ...moose = meese...S'quatch = S'queetch?
Anyway ..enough of pluralization...
Where is juiceme!?!?!
We need apostropheria!

Oooooh!
And a poll Dave!
We need a poll...
haven't had a decent one in a while...
Sorry Kangal I can't call your "Dragonball Z-esque" cooperative-animal-platoon-battles-poll a "poll"
ach!...
Not enough "apostropheria" ...
Juicemmmeeeeee !
we need more here man.
no, basically because of tree things.
1. I want to believe it.
2. How do I actually validate that it's fake?
3. apostropheria...That must be an alien language/word.

I have no poll up my sleeve right now, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
Ach!...
Dave can't you tell a hoax when you see one?
If you use some pro photo tools and zoom in...
the furry mitt o' the Sasquatch taking the photo is in the corner of the pic. ..
Big paws...small camera...typical of S'qautcheseseses..
hm..typical of S'quatchi? ...or is it like goose = geese ...moose = meese...S'quatch = S'queetch?
Anyway ..enough of pluralization...
Where is juiceme!?!?!
We need apostropheria!

Oooooh!
And a poll Dave!
We need a poll...
haven't had a decent one in a while...
Sorry Kangal I can't call your "Dragonball Z-esque" cooperative-animal-platoon-battles-poll a "poll"
ach!...
Not enough "apostropheria" ...
Juicemmmeeeeee !
we need more here man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6xaj2fC1jI#t=2m13s

Don't diss DBZ.... it is the modern equivalent of the bible!
So we're still up in the air between Wolverine vs Cougar vs Brown Bear??

Apostopheria!
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#2968
Ok. Forget about plagues, global warming, and astroids smashing into the earth. This is the epic game changer. The beginning of the end of the world as we know it...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ower/?hpid=z18
 
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#2969
Yay!
Quantum entanglement!
Worst case we get a derivative of Southland Tales...great film..for an end-of-the-worlder senenario...which ain't too bad...quasi-epic.
Weirder things may happen ...it's a complete unknown how Quantum Mechanics unleashed could rewrite ...well everything...
Yeah we got a company out here in BC that started the ball rolling ...they aren't a "start-up" they have been around for quite some time now....
All this is old news...in the article...though it does mean big change...
perhaps a better explanation too would have helped...
comparing a standard modern computer...best there is ...
vs a quantum ... take the New York City phone book...ask both computers to find the phone number for say...Xavier Zifflewaite...
the standard comp starts at the alphabetical beginning with "A" and looks at each phone number in alphabetical sequence until it gets to Xavier.
the Quantum doesn't do that...the "here" - "not here" - "yet there" - "yet not there" - "yet at the same time in both places yet not at all" is more akin to say..visually watching Nicholas Cage in a particular scene in "Next"...(although it is just a linear concept compared ..it is a good visual comparison on a "human" level)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lufECeWtN34
the quantum machine ...in it's way does the same thing...it looks at the entirety of the phone book ...outside and in ...and every phone number ..at once...you could say ..mirroring itself with multiple shadow versions of itself to find what it needs...and yet it doesn't do any of that.. and yet it does...yeah freaky-deaky ...
Passwords? Encryption? Modern forms of such will mean nothing but tissue paper...not even.. to a quantum...
Comparable to Nuclear weaponry? Hardly...quantum to nuclear bombs is as comparable as lightning striking vs a static charge from your carpet....It's the next "Big Cudgel" to beat with.
A quantum could easily ..launch, dismantle, detonate, or make a dud any and all Nuclear weapons on the planet in less time than a heart beats...no security ..no passwords, no "walls" of any kind, nor encryption would stop it.
The ramifications for communications is...when two quantum computers chat with each other...there is no time lag with distance...in essence..if you could put a quantum computer on the other side of the universe ...it would have no prob chatting with one here ...anymore than me chatting to someone in the same room of my house.
Quantum is cool.
Hmm...
do you think it may be too much.. if we could ask the team to install a smaller version in the neo900?
Quantum computers are a little big at the mo. though they are getting smaller...
I'm not expecting a quantum computer in a neo...
perhaps a quantum toe? ...fingernail? ..hair follicle?
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1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.


PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
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N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
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#2970
Guys. Quantum computers will be like a pentium 386 in 100 years. If not worse.

We need alien technology.
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