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    mosen | # 61 | 2015-07-08, 12:53 | Report

    Antti Saarnio @ Jolla Pioneers Facebook group about 2h ago:

    Originally Posted by
    Thanks guys for caring. You are true fans for it. Although these are bold moves for a start-up the reasons behind are very logical:
    1) HW business can't be justified with Jolla's R&D investment level,
    2) To justify investment level, Sailfish OS must scale with licensing partners,
    3) Serving licensing business is a huge task for us, focus is needed (imagine you having several big time customers demanding attention),
    4) Producing Jolla phones is very different sport and also requires focus (customers are important),
    5) Both businesses have very different kind of investors: Sailfish OS: big, expecting scale, Devices: smaller, mostly private. Selling two in one is very difficult. ...Most importantly, what you see here is commitment. We are very committed to build and conquer with Sailfish OS and we also want Jolla devices to show its full potential (with TOH). Thats why were are brave enough to me bold, Unlike moves
    and when i wished him luck with theyr plans in a comment he answered:

    Antti Saarnio
    Originally Posted by
    Not only our plans. We plan to do this together with you

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    Fellfrosch | # 62 | 2015-07-08, 13:40 | Report

    with TOH
    ...that sounds, like the next Phone could still have TOH.

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    Copernicus | # 63 | 2015-07-08, 13:52 | Report

    Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
    with TOH
    ...that sounds, like the next Phone could still have TOH.
    Absolutely; that's the biggest feature of the current Jolla hardware, which kind of makes it the most important element for the new company's products. After all, they're now going to have to compete with some fairly big hardware producers, assuming that Jolla succeeds in finding some licensees.

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    MartinK | # 64 | 2015-07-08, 13:56 | Report

    Originally Posted by Fellfrosch View Post
    with TOH
    ...that sounds, like the next Phone could still have TOH.
    If this is confirmed this a a really good news!

    I was afraid it would be the first thing on the chopping block for new Sailfish OS devices - which would be a great shame!

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    itdoesntmatt | # 65 | 2015-07-08, 14:37 | Report

    What about asking to him on that facebook group whats about future of opening sailfish and How is related to licensing business? I find reasons exposed reasonable.

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    nieldk | # 66 | 2015-07-08, 14:48 | Report

    I hope the updated first post answers many questions targeted at me and my initiative regarding funding.

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    nieldk | # 67 | 2015-07-08, 15:05 | Report

    Originally Posted by chemist View Post
    So Niel, you leave, then kickstarter then leave again? Your points are exaggerating and interpretative in a massive way, Jolla said they will cease device business, now they announce they continue device business... what is bad in that? That you put different departments in different companies is also risk management and maybe Nokia (or any other company) has their hands in it and Jolla protects SFOS from being bought and destroyed through device investments.

    Jolla also announced that they will open more sources, looking at the bigger FOSS companies, they all make money from other companies, not from private users so sailfish-secure will probably their commercial piece in terms of FOSS, highly adapted security devices for specific company/government needs. There are companies out there doing that closed-source without you even knowing their name as they do not offer any consumer devices. I can go on and on fighting your misconduct, but here it is also coming down to 2075eur you got from the community and you quit before you even started, I don't ask for money, I do everything here voluntarily, use my savings to buy devices. If you are worth the shot you probably be in Jolla's developer program... so what hardware did you buy from those 2075eur? Which is 4 phones (including a full stack of TOHs incl TOHKBD) and 3 tablets btw... and will you donate them to the community as you are leaving now?
    Shut up I mailed you on several occasions that I am donating both an N9 and an N900 to the coding competion here on TMO. While that seems to be accepted, it was never confirmed that You even want those devices. And yes, I am considering to donate a jolla device as well. This forum deserves some initiative to keep all those devies alive.
    Cheer up, and do continue the good work you are all doing.

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    itdoesntmatt | # 68 | 2015-07-08, 15:30 | Report

    Just asked on fb. Waiting For a reply but A.Saarni

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    jalyst | # 69 | 2015-07-08, 15:35 | Report

    Can you please ask him to clarify his "TOH" comment too (see 2nd post on this page)
    I can already predict the response, if there is one...

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    itdoesntmatt | # 70 | 2015-07-08, 15:44 | Report

    Sure i can. Tell me what are Your questions

    Otherwise if i Will be generical and vague i suppose official reply would sound Like "we are working on it.we ll share new info SOON
    ( copyright all rights reserved)" ahahhaah just joking

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