Well, I've started to to slowly build GTK 3 packages from Fedora 22 in the Mer OBS. More or less just for fun and to see if it is doable (recent GTK3 should work just fine on Wayland).

But there are also some very nice GTK 3 apps that would be nice to have on the Jolla phone - for example the Coreburd Twitter client - and Jolla tablet - Meld, Virt Manager, Firefox, Libre Office, Gimp, etc.

I don't have much time for this effort currently, so no promises or timelines. But help is definitely welcome!

The answer is, of course, you don't!

It's all context, man, context. When I'm walking on a beach or through a forest, then yeah, I don't want _any_ bulky devices anywhere nearby. (Heck, having an electronic device at all in those situations is probably odd to begin with.)

But 99.9% of the time, I'm not walking on a beach or through a forest. Here's my dream scenario:

Let's start at home (where I spend a great deal of my time, and where I suspect lots of other people spend lots of their time): I set my Jolla Tablet onto a stand, and plug it into the powered USB hub sitting next to it. Already plugged into that hub is my superb Kinesis Advantage keyboard and my comfortable Kensington Expert Mouse, along with an old terabyte hard drive containing some audio and video media, and a USB audio dongle connected to some cheap computer speakers (an audiophile I am not ). I have it play some music in the background and set it up to monitor my e-mail, while then moving to the standard desktop computer sitting on the other side of the desk to get some work done on that machine.

Later in the day, I decide to drive over to my brother's house. I pop the tablet out of the USB Hub (shutting down what needs to be shut down first, not sure how easy this will work) and go to my car. I connect the tablet to my charger, connect the audio output to my car's audio system, and listen to whatever podcasts I have downloaded to it.

Once I get to my brother's place, I help him out with managing the inventory sitting in his garage (as he's got a small retail business), using this fine old laser barcode scanner (which is much faster and easier to use than camera-based barcode scanning!) connected to the tablet. After that, we go back inside the house, and I once again check my e-mail (and perhaps do some more inventory-related work), using the tablet connected to my "breakout bag": basically a laptop bag containing a portable keyboard, mouse, and powered usb hub.

Anyway, something like that. The combination of a small, portable, battery-powered computer that you can use where bulky devices are inconvenient, along with the ability to use those bulky devices in situations where they are convenient. Best of both worlds!

I once had a big, powerful laptop; in fact, I still have it around here somewhere... It's got a truly comfortable keyboard, huge screen, plenty of CPU/Ram/HD space. Basically, an entire office on-the-go. And eventually, I realized that it was so dang heavy that I never wanted to take it anywhere.

A tiny portable unit plus an array of docking stations is definitely a better solution.

Unfortunately, I've already got my fingers in to too many projects at the moment. (And besides, I won't have a Sailfish device to develop on until they start shipping tablets to the third batch of early sailors... Although I am trying to get my own apps up and running on the Sailfish SDK emulator right now. )

A Jolla device is actually not needed at this early stage of the effort - it currently amounts to:

1. pulling SRPMs from koji
2. extracting tarballs and spec files from them
3. putting them on Mer OBS
4. tweaking spec files until the package builds or adding missing dependencies (GOTO 1)

It is still quite a long way of from having something runable (and therefore actually needing a Sailfish OS device or its emulator).

That is really nice to hear... I somehow had the impression that GTK is X-only, and porting to wayland would be a real pain.

I don't think so. I can already run F22 with Wayland and it almost works not so bad.

Speaking of design... Here is something that i made earlier.

We're a year after this post now: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.se/2014/...-big-news.html Who knows maybe by end of 2016, I find 2015 unrealistic with tablet and sailfish 2 work.

Is this our jolla 2? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news...hanghai-715542 I wonder what the radio frequencies will be. I suspect if nothing else some people in India will sell it on places like ebay.

Snapdragon 410 or 600
4,7" display with 720p
1 GB of RAM
8GB internal storage
2300maH Battery
SD Card Slot
4G/LTE
8MP back and 2MP front cam
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS/AGPS

http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/news/mw...re-026654.html
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news...hanghai-715542