It was actually a collaboration with our design guys and some Finnish guys. The reference device is nothing like the phone, but PCB reuse is not abnormal.

I think that,even all us can and must admit that jolla made some mistakes (some of them quite big), is not a reason to lacking of respect to them. I can understand the angry ones for loosing money, but i think their intention was/are good. I don't think they have done the best they could, but at least they really tried and i dont want to blame them for that. We can be angry, we can show our disappointment and remark what we think have been their missing point and mistakes, but we have to recognise to them a lot of attenuances and some great things that they finally reached. otherwise, if you speak just like that way, we would be a bunch of trolls. So if we have to talk about it , please try to be really constructive and not to destroy everything.

however since is not the real topic of this thread i invite all you guys to come back IT.
Thanks to Nodevel for news and thank to cybette, very kind sailor and to lakko for her work and efforts.
And the greatest thanks go to Jaakko, since i think is one of the most talented guy on the boat.

Jolla did stay away from communities, or at least this one. Maemo.org admin bent over backwards in an attempt to persuade Jolla to make maemo.org its official home, but Jolla were not interested. This is not surprising, since we are not really Jolla's intended customers.

The impact of TMO activity on Jolla's fortunes is zilch, so it's no good trying to use TMO as a scapegoat.

Thanks, I stand corrected. Still, if that's the case, it makes me wonder why there was such a dearth of interest inside Jolla for novel other halves, or what the longstanding problem was with the replaceable battery; I would have thought if there were folks inside Jolla actually interested in hardware, the phone would have gotten a little more attention...

I've never seen an android-a-like jolla phone

Was there ever any evidence that the tablet was someone else's design? It's the same style as the phone. It always seemed more likely to me that they'd sold the design to someone in China to sell there, as a nifty way of getting some more money in to fund the thing.

So why did Marc left?

seriously OT, but i feel to do it:

Everyone here talking about opensource and really open project with TMO as important reference point...but on the other side, so much little interest about NEMO mobile thread. I really would like to know why you act in this way, please reply to me in that thread since i am feeling mind-fractured. just cant afford why call for a homemade cake and then no one is interested to contribute in his way in the process of cooking it.

no i guess instead that tablet design was chosen by some other manufacturer, and rifined as they wanted. but thats not such an important thing.

again rumoured to partner with Nokia ?