Wasn't it about 1000? ISTR two lots, one of about 80 units an another one of 1000. Minus those already sold.
Number speculation aside, from the schedule that we saw...
It would seem that the 2nd wave was going to be final pre-production for 32gb tablets, and of approximate size to the first wave.
We were already told that the december wave was going to be pushed back to an unknown timeslot so it stands to reason that batch was never manufactured.
I would like to email the CEO of Jolla with a business proposal . Does anyone here have his email address?
I don't think jolla has announced an new CEO offically. But I would suggest to send a message via twitter to Antti since they like to communicate via twitter.
We have been over this atleast 245 times but why not take it one more time.
1. Jolla is an entity with a already in product in market.
2. jolla had around 200 employees, with there own webshop.
3. jolla sold the idea of a tablet.
4. jolla used stretch goals to give extra money.
5. jolla sold the tablet in their web shop.
given these points + the fact that jolla focued more on the OS rather then finish the tablet makes it close to a scam and jolla can hide behind the word Crowdfunding. But in reality its a fraud, scam, trick or ... or what every you like to call. Sure we invested and I dont really expect the money back but I will always hold it against jolla and the Management behind it.
I didn't say anything about the tablets being sold in the shop, anyone who ordered those should be refunded (or in fact they should be the first and if necessary only people to receive the actual device) as they actually ordered a product from a shop which they didn't receive. The people who sent money through Indiegogo did just that, send money. They did not buy a product, ever. Whether Jolla already had a product on the market before the campaign started makes no difference because they did not sell a product in the campaign, they asked for money to help make a tablet and IF they were successful in doing so, you would receive a tablet, of which the specifications would have depended on the amount of money you donated. They weren't successful, so nobody gets a tablet.
In fact, what is the point behind almost anything you said? What does it matter whether they had 'stretch goals' or not? Look, here are my points which clearly show why absolutely no wrong has been done:
1. the tablet is black
2. 'jolla' is Finnish for some kind of small boat
3. it was a campaign on Indiegogo and not on Kickstarter
4. Jolla now has less employees than it did before the campaign
5. it was rainy today in some parts of the world
If any of you (excluding those who paid for a tablet through the shop) actually had a case (that the campaign was a scam or whatever), you could and would sue Jolla to get your money back. But you don't, so you won't.
This is yet another demonstration of the deep misunderstanding some people have. How many times does this have to be repeated? The tablet and the phone run the same OS! Sure there are two different builds for two different CPU architectures but that is no big job for an automated build (Jolla does use those, right?). The only extra effort is testing on different screen sizes but since there are only two and they want to support OEM devices, they will have to run those anyway.
I didn't say anything about the tablets being sold in the shop, anyone who ordered those should be refunded (or in fact they should be the first and if necessary only people to receive the actual device) as they actually ordered a product from a shop which they didn't receive. The people who sent money through Indiegogo did just that, send money. They did not buy a product, ever. Whether Jolla already had a product on the market before the campaign started makes no difference because they did not sell a product in the campaign, they asked for money to help make a tablet and IF they were successful in doing so, you would receive a tablet, of which the specifications would have depended on the amount of money you donated. They weren't successful, so nobody gets a tablet.
In fact, what is the point behind almost anything you said? What does it matter whether they had 'stretch goals' or not? Look, here are my points which clearly show why absolutely no wrong has been done:
1. the tablet is black
2. 'jolla' is Finnish for some kind of small boat
3. it was a campaign on Indiegogo and not on Kickstarter
4. Jolla now has less employees than it did before the campaign
5. it was rainy today in some parts of the world
If any of you (excluding those who paid for a tablet through the shop) actually had a case (that the campaign was a scam or whatever), you could and would sue Jolla to get your money back. But you don't, so you won't.
I'm not looking to sue anyone. I'm looking for a proper business model from jolla, that could help them for the next product, not drag any future product to the bottom before its even announced.
Ok, I play along. Let's say jolla skip tablet and move on with the money like if its was a gift. Do you think that "some of us" are likely to buy/help/fund/support jolla under current situation?
... anyone who ordered those should be refunded (or in fact they should be the first and if necessary only people to receive the actual device) as they actually ordered a product from a shop which they didn't receive. ...
As a webshopper, I wondered if this was going to be the case for that very reason, but it seems to be that the IGG backers are getting first preference and the only way to get a refund is to invoke a PayPal dispute.
Which is a fairly poor effort by Jolla really, I shouldn't have to go begging for a refund or have PayPal strong arm them if they have no intention of delivering what I had pre-ordered. I'm curious as to what the compensation is going to be but at the same time I pre-ordered a Sailfish Tablet not an Intex Phone or whatever else they may offer.
The hw adaptation for the tablet has already been done. They don't change much.
hw adaptation for jolla1 was theoretically done 2 years ago, posts about random shutdowns stopped a couple of months ago, maybe intel socs are better, but if they had to support 200 devices with similar bugs, hope second batch is bigger anyway (also gives reason for developers to recompile), but hw/arch specific code is not a done deal (see special tweaks for recompiling on arm for maemo)
hw adaptation for jolla1 was theoretically done 2 years ago, posts about random shutdowns stopped a couple of months ago, maybe intel socs are better, but if they had to support 200 devices with similar bugs, hope second batch is bigger anyway (also gives reason for developers to recompile), but hw/arch specific code is not a done deal (see special tweaks for recompiling on arm for maemo)
I don't see many problems on the tablet now. The minimum display brightness could be dimmer, and it sometimes sucks its battery on standby, though that may be arch rather than the tablet hw specifically. For sure it's going to get really interesting if they manage to expand the range of hw they run on. They've always supported x86 though, and I can't see that stopping. Atom on mobile is on the rise.
