Originally Posted by mosen

But they still have some value to offer in discount on possible future devices and possibly free access to payed services they might come up with.

Originally Posted by marxian

So, Jolla alone are to blame for their failure to deliver the tablet in accordance with the schedule given at the time of the crowdfunding campaign.

Originally Posted by zenecho

I dont Jolla is ever going to build/supply another new hardware device, they can hardly say to another company buy our software and by the way please give a "special" discount to these old customers/supporters of ours. thanks.

Software is their only asset - one reason why they will NEVER open source it.

I personnel dont trust Jolla as a company, Thety have sadly lied to us so many times in thepast. I think the amount of Tablets is going to VERY VERY small, and the only reason they have bigged up the "special" is so that is spreads out the time period when people demand there cash back (Not IGG)

Originally Posted by szopin

Weird reading, Jolla alone are to blame for trying, what are you attempting? Boycotting them because you did not get a freebie and because SDK is so hard to DL/install? Or more popcorn? Seriously

edit: luckily YTPlayer is feature complete and there is no more need for youtube app (especially as it works nicely in browser even, n900 is kind of lacking in that department since a year or two, but hey, bit more ram will fix it)

Originally Posted by marxian

I don't pretend to understand your incoherent rants, so I have no useful response.

Originally Posted by szopin

Oh ok, just insert a popcorn gif, we know
In case you want to understand: marxian THE n900 hero coder decided to not support sailfishOS and jolla in any way, because downloading SDK is soooo hard

Originally Posted by marxian

I don't support Sailfish because I don't have time for it in addition to the platforms I already support, and it doesn't offer me anything I don't already have. Also, I am broke as a result of spending much of my time working for free for the last 5 years (which I have no complaints about, since it was my choice), so I cannot afford to just discard my existing devices and replace them with the latest shiny every year.

As it happens, I installed the Sailfish SDK before the first Jolla device shipped, and spent a couple of weeks porting applications. I had screenshots of the results on my website at the time. However, I did not care much for Silica UI.

The fact is that I don't have any interest in smartphones. The N900 is an anomaly. I don't even use it as a phone. Once my N900 dies, my interest in mobile is over.

Originally Posted by endsormeans

they are going to give everyone...
store and warehouse shelving, stationary and staplers and paperclips...

Originally Posted by szopin

NEVER EVER, or like debian/redhat once it is mature and intex-like people/companies catch on there will be business in having experts supporting and developing it further. In current state with only jPhone sure, open sourcing is stupid, but with manufacturers thatg require support RHEL model kind of makes sense