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2016-02-13
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Originally Posted by nieldk
Let me guess. Do they... sell fish? (Fnar fnar.
Selfish is a Japanese restaurant in Copenhagen
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In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
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In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
-- nieldk in a TMO post
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2016-02-13
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Originally Posted by nieldk
He didn't say that. What he said was that he would leave it up to others to decide for themselves what they should do.
More cool than saying "Yeah, i got my money back. But you shouldnt"
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2016-02-13
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Originally Posted by marxian
No, that's effectively the situation that his actions are bringing about. Everyone knows that Jolla's financial situation is tight, and if everyone tried at once to get their tablet money back in this way, the company would default on the debt and most would get nothing. The best way for everyone to get a refund is to wait for the announced plan to unfold. Every person who forces a refund through their cc company, makes it a little less likely that everyone else will get their refund.
He didn't say that. What he said was that he would leave it up to others to decide for themselves what they should do.
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2016-02-13
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Which is why I agree with vitaminj and condemn prometheus's actions.
But marxian is right, prometheus did say exactly, "I do not encourage anyone to do the same, it is totally up to them whether they decide to stick with Jolla, wait for them to (if they ever) issue them a refund, donate that money (that they so happily implied in their blog post) or whatever..."
In other words, "it's up to you whether you want to play with everyone or be selfish and inconsiderate like me."
Not, as nieldk implied, "only I can be selfish and inconsiderate, screw everyone else".
If I am misinterpreting neildk's words, then I apologize.
But marxian is right, prometheus did say exactly, "I do not encourage anyone to do the same, it is totally up to them whether they decide to stick with Jolla, wait for them to (if they ever) issue them a refund, donate that money (that they so happily implied in their blog post) or whatever..."
In other words, "it's up to you whether you want to play with everyone or be selfish and inconsiderate like me."
Not, as nieldk implied, "only I can be selfish and inconsiderate, screw everyone else".
If I am misinterpreting neildk's words, then I apologize.
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In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
-- nieldk in a TMO post
In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
-- nieldk in a TMO post
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2016-02-13
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Yay! We're arguing again!
No seriously folks... there's no need. We should be able to commiserate and hopefully find a better way to expend our energy. But that's my childish hope for a group of obviously intelligent people...
No seriously folks... there's no need. We should be able to commiserate and hopefully find a better way to expend our energy. But that's my childish hope for a group of obviously intelligent people...
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2016-02-13
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No more arguing. Let's conclude that Jolla is scammers and a company we can't trust until all are fully refunded.
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I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...I'm also supporting Apple 2016 or until Jolla fully refund or ship the jPad to all backers and supports!
"waited over a year for no tablet – and then the same again for potential refund? inspires confidence!"
Do something for the climate today! Anything!
I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...I'm also supporting Apple 2016 or until Jolla fully refund or ship the jPad to all backers and supports!
"waited over a year for no tablet – and then the same again for potential refund? inspires confidence!"
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2016-02-13
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Sorry, Dave, I can't agree with that. Not all of that anyway.
A company you cannot trust? Definitely. Scammers? I don't think so.
A company you cannot trust? Definitely. Scammers? I don't think so.
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In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
-- nieldk in a TMO post
In particle accelerators atoms are indeed not only touching each others. But banging together in a massive explosive orgasm.
-- nieldk in a TMO post
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2016-02-13
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Originally Posted by pichlo
What do you call a company that set up a webshop, selling stuff they don't have. Deliver nothing. Payback nothing, not even communicate to those customers?
Sorry, Dave, I can't agree with that. Not all of that anyway.
A company you cannot trust? Definitely. Scammers? I don't think so.
In my country it's scam, fraud or somewhere in between
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Do something for the climate today! Anything!
I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...I'm also supporting Apple 2016 or until Jolla fully refund or ship the jPad to all backers and supports!
"waited over a year for no tablet – and then the same again for potential refund? inspires confidence!"
Do something for the climate today! Anything!
I don't trust poeple without a Nokia n900...I'm also supporting Apple 2016 or until Jolla fully refund or ship the jPad to all backers and supports!
"waited over a year for no tablet – and then the same again for potential refund? inspires confidence!"
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2016-02-13
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Originally Posted by Dave999
How about we agree that you're instigating **** and above all this was yet another crowdfunding attempt that unfortunately went south? It happens.
No more arguing. Let's conclude that Jolla is scammers and a company we can't trust until all are fully refunded.
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