Faustino | # 31 | 2016-05-30, 01:33 | Report

Of course Nokia are to blame.. they created something which had massive potential and didn't know what to do with it.

Everything was wrong, the marketing, the branding..

ibrakalifa | # 32 | 2016-05-30, 01:37 | Report

And now they have the chances, i bet if they go with android they will lose again, they have a weapon, they have potential but they dont even believe in themselves, now thats the problem...
i would like to see another meego on latest chipset with 2,5D screen, thats a multiple orgasm

Faustino | # 33 | 2016-05-30, 01:43 | Report

The work it would take to bring MeeGo or Maemo in line with it's rivals would take at least a year, the whole time those rivals are coming out with more and more powerful devices.

Imagine, a slimmer N900, 4gb Ram, QHD 5.7" screen. A pressure sensitive pen (like a Wacom) and a decent quad core processor.

Definitely be a wet dream.

I think the closest can get to it at the moment is the last Blackberry phone to come out (priv), someone with the right inclination could make a very nice custom rom for that

ibrakalifa | # 34 | 2016-05-30, 01:49 | Report

means a phone with harmattan and a tablet with fremantle, thats epic!!

railroadmaster | # 35 | 2016-05-30, 07:01 | Report

Essentially the whole thing is kinda like a way of moving money around. Nokia licenses their brand to another company who has to take people from their company and Nokia takes no real risk as HMD is the one selling the product and marketing but Nokia still makes money from it plus the company is largely former Nokia personnel and imagine a good amount of company shares are Nokia owned.

juiceme | # 36 | 2016-05-30, 08:17 | Report

Close but no cigar.

There's no "largely former Nokia personnel" involved; it is just a marketing company employing a handful of people.

Design and manufacturing is done in China, and the devices will use standard off-the-shelf HW design and for SW, it will of course be just Android.

Foxkia | # 37 | 2016-05-30, 15:39 | Report

DJCBS

1 - HMD, the company who has the global rights to the Nokia-branded phones, is a FINNISH company;

2 - Nokia holds a seat on HMD's board and has the ultimate saying on pretty much any phone made. It controls designs, quality, technology, consumer experience etc;

3 - the manufacturing will be done in partnership with Foxconn. Which is exactly what pretty much everyone else is doing, from Apple to Sony, including Microsoft itself (Foxconn builds the Xbox One in case you didn't know that).

4 - HMD's CEO is an ex-Nokia veteran. HMD's employees are ex-Nokians. HMD will be using Nokia patents for the phones.

juiceme | # 38 | 2016-05-30, 19:33 | Report

1.) Finland has lots of failing companies. And lots of crap too.
2.) Not really.
3.) As you said, everyone uses FC. So what.
4.) Yeah, what a talent pool.

railroadmaster | # 39 | 2016-05-30, 21:45 | Report

Foxconn also purchased a portion of Nokia's former feature phone business through FIH.

gerbick | # 40 | 2016-05-31, 02:38 | Report

I did not know this.

What bothers me was how nonchalant Nokia was in regards to seeing what folks wanted and how they weren't delivering. That's some comfort only afforded to you when you've gone unchallenged for so long.

The want for something new has to be delivered and explained to the layman in a way that makes them want it and developers need to create stuff that is compelling and the hardware folks need to build something that's long lasting. Phones used to last, now? You're lucky if you get a year.

That trend seems to be cyclic. Apple is now starting to show signs of stagnation and their phones are bolstered only by the apps that support it and grant access to the trendy things that folks like/use whereas functionality is largely the same as it was in 2007.