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    pichlo | # 141 | 2016-10-09, 08:01 | Report

    Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki View Post
    WOW!
    Browser works so much better now!
    Indeed. Although the old bug is still there. When you close the browser after a longish session, possibly with a few downloads, it then refuses to start again the next day. It sits there spinning for a few seconds and then shuts down. Killing sailfish-browser sometimes helps, but most of the times the only cure is a reboot.

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    Bundyo | # 142 | 2016-10-09, 08:09 | Report

    Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
    Indeed. Although the old bug is still there. When you close the browser after a longish session, possibly with a few downloads, it then refuses to start again the next day. It sits there spinning for a few seconds and then shuts down. Killing sailfish-browser sometimes helps, but most of the times the only cure is a reboot.
    Hmm, never encountered this one...

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    mscion | # 143 | 2016-10-09, 08:14 | Report

    Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
    Einstein discovered the equivalence of matter and energy. Physicists later discovered the equivalence of matter, energy and information. The consequences are worrying. If you concentrate too much information in one place, you can create an information implosion. In a word, a black hole.

    This is the reason the updates fail so frequently.
    Fascinating! So what is the mass of a bit or byte?

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    mikecomputing | # 144 | 2016-10-09, 10:59 | Report

    Originally Posted by coderus View Post
    Every new update draining a lot more battery than previous. THis is normal.
    I read somewhere several weeks ago, "next update should fix some battery issues" so I didn't bother report it.

    But now I think it could be cause of some cellular issue on my FP2.

    Cellular is often getting disabled on FP2 for unknown reason and I have to go to settings and toggle 3G setting then it comes back.

    Maybe cellular is retrying connect in background and fail all the time and drains battery? I should probably report this somewhere not sure where...

    Anyone with FP2 who has similar issues? Notice this was seen before upgrade but battery seems drain even faster now. Not holding a day

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    juiceme | # 145 | 2016-10-09, 11:15 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Fascinating! So what is the mass of a bit or byte?
    It's one quantum unit of mass. But from this also follows that information has temperature, as it is also unit of entropy. Go figure!

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    pichlo | # 146 | 2016-10-09, 12:08 | Report

    Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
    But from this also follows that information has temperature
    Sure it does. Equivalence, remember?

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    pichlo | # 147 | 2016-10-09, 12:59 | Report

    Originally Posted by Bundyo View Post
    Hmm, never encountered this one...
    I cannot reproduce it at will either. But it is guaranteed to happen at least once a month. Usually after an intensive browsing session lasting nonstop for at least an hour, with lots of skipping from one page to another. Downloading lots of stuff may also be related. Follow a link, start a download, navigate back, follow another link... never linger anywhere for longer than two minutes. After an hour or two of that, close the browser. Go to sleep. Try to start the browser the next day. Tada!

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    mrsellout | # 148 | 2016-10-09, 13:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by mikecomputing View Post
    I read somewhere several weeks ago, "next update should fix some battery issues" so I didn't bother report it.

    But now I think it could be cause of some cellular issue on my FP2.

    Cellular is often getting disabled on FP2 for unknown reason and I have to go to settings and toggle 3G setting then it comes back.

    Maybe cellular is retrying connect in background and fail all the time and drains battery? I should probably report this somewhere not sure where...

    Anyone with FP2 who has similar issues? Notice this was seen before upgrade but battery seems drain even faster now. Not holding a day
    nodevel has documented what might be a fix for this issue here:
    http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1023

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    mscion | # 149 | 2016-10-09, 14:39 | Report

    Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
    It's one quantum unit of mass. But from this also follows that information has temperature, as it is also unit of entropy. Go figure!
    Does the fact that information has temperature explain why the Note 7s are catching fire?

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    lal | # 150 | 2016-10-09, 15:43 | Report

    Originally Posted by mscion View Post
    Does the fact that information has temperature explain why the Note 7s are catching fire?
    May be samsung and google are stealing too much information such that the device electronics cannot stand. It might have resulted in a breakdown at some point which exponentially increases the flow of data and hence temperature.

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