t-b | # 1901 | 2016-10-18, 15:20 | Report

Did you try point to point instead of address to address? Keep in mind Modrana doesn't support map rendering offline. It is just routing and to be honest without maps I wouldn't like to drive from Poland to Czech Republic.

Maybe this works: use the (partially) download method - so download the maps from the route first and then start the offline routing. I haven't tried this method myself, so I am not sure if this works.

justmemory | # 1902 | 2016-10-18, 15:57 | Report

Hi!

I used offline routing recently and it worked. I can confirm that maybe you should try the Point to point option (you should download the start and end point tiles of course). After calculating the route you will have the option to download tiles only around the route.

jm

t-b | # 1903 | 2016-10-18, 16:45 | Report

Nice - I might also give that a try then. Btw - do you know what will happen with the offline tiles data once you have chosen another route?

justmemory | # 1904 | 2016-10-18, 19:25 | Report

In Map/Tile storage you have the option to set whether storage tiles or not. I guess if you choose not to store tiles maybe modrana deletes these tiles after you quit.
If you downloaded the tiles of a route for offline navigation you have to store these tiles of course and these tiles are kept on the device (or SD card) until you delete them. It does not matter whether you choose another route or not. This is true for the png-s (image file storage). If you choose sqlite storage method I do not know how to delete specific part of the downloaded tiles (maybe you should edit the sqlite databases).

Ridd92 | # 1905 | 2016-10-19, 10:22 | Report

I didn't mention this before, I tought this is clear but it is not. How can I do point to point navigation when modrana doesn't load offline maps even when they are selected as default? I tried everything including clear config files, app reinstall and even downloaded and unpacked maps again, nothing works...

EDIT: And when Im back online with selected monav on device maps modrana downloading online maps (I can tell because celluar data transfer is rising when I go around the maps.

dovf | # 1906 | 2016-10-19, 13:15 | Report

A couple of notes (it's not clear to me whether you already know all of this, so sorry if I'm just repeating things you already know):

As explained by t-b, the offline "maps" downloaded for offline routing are only the "metadata" that allows routing, but not the map tiles themselves -- so routing will still work, but there won't be any maps rendered, which is not much fun...

So obviously, if you want map tiles, they must be downloaded sometime when you are connected to the network. Assuming that "Map->Tile Storage->Store downloaded tiles" is set to "ON", any tile that is downloaded will be stored, and will appear again later even if there is no data connection. However, a few things to note:

1. It seems to me (?) that even when map tiles are available, modrana still first tries to download new tiles, before rendering the existing tiles; so I find that when offline, things generally work better if I explicitly tell modrana not to use the network at all (Options->Network->Network Usage->Network: don't download map tiles).

2. Note that tiles are per-zoom-level: so even if you've downloaded the tiles for a specific region, and then while offline you go back to that region, but are in a different zoom level, no map will be rendered. (It would actually be nice if modrana behaved more like mappero in this respect: mappero scales downloaded tiles from different zoom-levels to the current zoom-level, if nothing better is available...).

As explained in previous responses, in the Download menu you can download the tiles for the area around a route / track / current location / current view, and choose how many zoom levels up and down to download in addition to the current zoom level.

With the above, I am able to use modrana offline with much success.

Hope this helps!
Dov

Ridd92 | # 1907 | 2016-10-19, 16:12 | Report

No need to be sorry, non at all. actually your post have been very helpful to me. Thank you very much.

MartinK | # 1908 | 2016-10-19, 17:22 | Report

The answer is unfortunately quite simple - modRana on the N900 currently only supports offline routing, not yet offline map rendering. So you can currently find a way offline, but not render an areae from the same data.

Some progress in offline map rendering is being made via libsomscout-server on Sailfish OS & Linux desktop, but I'm not sure if there are any plans from running libsomscout-server also on the N900, which precludes this from being useful by modRana users on the N900.

So I'm afraid there is nothing at least in the short-term that modRana can provide with regards to direct offline map rendering.

The closes to it is probably to use the batch tile download functionality modRana has on the N900 to pre-download map tiles for your expected travel area (over say WiFi), so that you have something to see on the map once you enter the no-Internet are. And you can use the offline routing to complement this for route finding.

ontime | # 1909 | 2016-10-20, 15:57 | Report

Pre-download doesn't work for me (nothing is saved). I disabled isTheStringAnImage and it fetched that: 'We're sorry...</h1><p>... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.' instead of tiles. Is it a chance to avoid google protection (captcha)? Some API Key?

All file:
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MartinK | # 1910 | 2016-12-03, 13:12 | Report

modRana 0.52.3 has been released!
So this is it - finally a new modRana release! While this is mostly a bug-fix release, it still brings support for using the OSM Scout Server layers:




See the OSM Scout Server thread for more information & how to properly setup OSM Scout Server on your device so you can (at last!) enjoy offline rendered maps on your Sailfish OS device.

I've updated the modRana OpenRepos package yesterday and will also submit an update to Jolla Store in about a week if no serious issues surface till then.

The N900 package has not yet been updated as I want to give it a bit more testing, but it should also be updated within a few days.

As for what you can expect in upcoming modRana updates:

• improved map drawing code, this is actually quite far along, just not yet stable enough for release
• support for more OSM Scout Server features such as POI search and routing
• improved routing interface
• improved track recording
• better layer and overlay management
• POI search improvements

Changelog: