lantern | # 491 | 2017-06-29, 15:24 | Report

I wonder if every image will be the same (generic) or will be individually watermarked.

If latter, than it would be worse than android. Every device will be tied not only to your phone, but to your credit card number and name + address. And Jolla will keep this info somewhere. And it could be hacked or stolen.

deutch1976 | # 492 | 2017-06-29, 15:32 | Report

I've been watching stupid moves from Jolla but this one beats them all

bnwg | # 493 | 2017-06-29, 15:39 | Report

It makes sense that it's not free with exchange and alien dalvik for android support. I'm just curious how good it handles the android apps and the future support for upgrading (i.e. MM -> N -> O and so on). I'm not in the argument of "Go buy an android phone if you want android app" but the bottomline is to have essential apps to live on as daily driver device no matter it's for personal or business use. I'm forced to abandon BB10 to iOS because the ecosystem of B10 can't support for my business need.

I'm willing to pay for the premium for OS that is so optimized and required much less hardware resource to run smoothly on non-high-end device as long as user experience is good. But too bad that in reality most of the people would compare the hardware spec when it comes to price.

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mrsellout | # 494 | 2017-06-29, 15:45 | Report

Wouldn't they just use the Jolla account to verify purchased images? Currently it's used for early adopter updates amongst other things (eg limited ed. TOH ambiences I think), so I guess it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for them to bring this into the loop.

lantern | # 495 | 2017-06-29, 15:54 | Report

So now we would have every device tied to Jolla account which has all our info? Just like Google.play account, only worse, cause it's mandatory. How nice.

jukk | # 496 | 2017-06-29, 17:05 | Report

How?

In my opinion this is the best news in a long time. I've been worried that they would have been forced to close the business several times.

My Jolla 1 is getting worse to use, screen is failing. I'm going to get an Xperia X. Happiness

MartinK | # 497 | 2017-06-29, 17:28 | Report

I think they could have a generic image and the "paid" stuff could be installed later from the store after some sort of activation/license code entry/whatever. I think it could more or less work out of the box (minus the activation bits) as it's already possible to install Android & Exchange support from the store.

BTW why you don't want different per-user images:

• you need to store or generate sizeable per user image vs just storing a single generic image per device
• harder to verify you image is not corrupt or maliciously modified, as you would need to provide & check checksums per user
• all the privacy implications of tying personal details and device information together by the per-user image

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meet.vino | # 498 | 2017-06-29, 18:34 | Report

I know it's terribly off-topic, but what would happen if Jolla decides to officially support an existing port, say, the one to OPX? Would they be in breach of any law?

nieldk | # 499 | 2017-06-29, 20:48 | Report

I uttered that concern before.
I dont think they do so using AOSP sources.
But,
Google have some requirements that must br met for example Android logo in a specific position.

I am, still, wondering about other propriatary stuff. For example WiFi binary blobs, Qualcomm blobs, modem abd bootloaders.
I hope not, but manufacturers are paying quite big licensing fees to Qualcomm.

chenliangchen | # 500 | 2017-06-29, 21:00 | Report

I hope they are IMEI based instead of tied to the account...