mikecomputing | # 1261 | 2017-09-30, 07:16 | Report

Thats not a good answer. Sony should support Linux or GTFO with their lies about open development!

llelectronics | # 1262 | 2017-09-30, 09:52 | Report

I honestly don't understand this.

Did Jolla not talk with Sony at the beginning of the "cooperation" how to distribute the Image?
Usually you make a contract with the company and the conditions in that contract need to be fulfilled.
If Jolla did not do that they have to do some explaining or they deserve to be destroyed by the media.

If there is no contract at all then flashing the SailfishOS Image will invalid the warranty anyways so Jolla should just not care and release the the linux flash tool or tutorial on how to flash alongside the Windows flashing tool or way to flash.

jakibaki | # 1263 | 2017-09-30, 12:11 | Report

Then they can't expect any help at all from Sony in the future.

I agree that they should've made it very clear (and legally binding) what Jolla is allowed/not allowed to distribute but burning that bridge now won't help anyone and would make Sailfish X very unlikely for the next generation of Sony-devices and most the effort to make Sailfish OS compatible with sony-open-device-aosp useless.

mariusmssj | # 1264 | 2017-09-30, 12:18 | Report

From what I gather they got help from Swedish team

llelectronics | # 1265 | 2017-09-30, 12:26 | Report

Why?

If they have no contract signed that they are breaching with this. I don't see any problem.

jakibaki | # 1266 | 2017-09-30, 12:38 | Report

Because Sony wouldn't want business with them anymore if they don't fulfill the requirements they gave to Jolla, legally binding or not.

Also there probably is something that prevents Jolla from legally distributing these blobs, Sony has nothing to gain by forcing people to use Emma (afaik they even added support for the Xperia X just to make this possible so it's even more work for them).

llelectronics | # 1267 | 2017-09-30, 13:00 | Report

Then this is for the better. If Sony is a bitch don't work together with them.
With the first Image using AOSP as a base they don't need Sony cooperation anyways anymore for porting to other Sony Open Device Program devices.

jakibaki | # 1268 | 2017-09-30, 13:15 | Report

The requirement of Emma didn't come for no reason.

Jolla isn't allowed to distribute the blobs so Sony is putting them on a special partition in the update that we're supposed to install with Emma.

This wouldn't be possible if Sony didn't support Jolla in this so loosing Sonys support would make selling a version for a different Xperia even in this generation impossible for Jolla.

LouisDK | # 1269 | 2017-09-30, 19:01 | Report

Just to clarity does binary blobs refer to Sony DRM drivers or open device program drivers?

jakibaki | # 1270 | 2017-09-30, 19:24 | Report

The latter. The drm-stuff is gone once you unlock your bootloader and by restoring it (if you backed it up before unlocking) you re-lock the bootloader.