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nieldk | # 1351 | 2017-10-04, 18:10 | Report

Originally Posted by jakibaki View Post

There are two flash-modes on the Xperia X:

The (pretty much universal) fastboot mode and a more "powerful" sony-specific flash-mode.

There is a special partition on which Jolla is supposed to put the xperia-x blobs on (closed source drivers, which are unfortunately necessary on all current smartphones).

This special partition is by default not writable in fastboot mode.
So Sony is providing an update that enables this special partition to be written using fastboot.
This update can only officially be installed using emma, the flash-tool by Sony (which works with the sony-specific flash-mode).
After that the blobs can be written to the special partition in fastboot-mode.

That is the official ways of doing things; there are ways around the requirement of emma by writing the speical partition while the phone is booted up or in recovery-mode but these are unofficial for now.

Yep.
Although, I am pretty certain the updated bootloader which enables the new feature (by Sony) can be grabbed, and then flashed using flashtool by androxyde from XDA.
Once I get the X and the official image I will test this out hehe.

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trashHeap | # 1352 | 2017-10-04, 18:13 | Report

Anyone have any clue if VIsa Travelmoney or a Travelex Mastercard might be an accepted method of payment come general sales on the 11th?

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jakibaki | # 1353 | 2017-10-04, 18:21 | Report

Originally Posted by nieldk View Post

Yep.
Although, I am pretty certain the updated bootloader which enables the new feature (by Sony) can be grabbed, and then flashed using flashtool by androxyde from XDA.
Once I get the X and the official image I will test this out hehe.

The image can already be downloaded here.
I think it's the right one judging by the version number but i'm not fully certain.
If someone could flash it with flashtool and confirm/deny if the oem-partition is writable via fastboot after updating that would be great! (I don't want to do it myself because my Xperia X is my daily driver right now)

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alfmar | # 1354 | 2017-10-04, 18:36 | Report

Originally Posted by

Here's your order:
Sailfish X: Sailfish OS for Sony Xperia™ X

Can't wait to shout "shut up and get my money!"

Originally Posted by

Re-installing the native Android OS may not be possible and is not recommended, as you will not get all of the Android functionality back.

Translates as: "you won't be able to sell an Android Xperia X in future". Who actually cares? (note also the "sale is final, no refund if you regret purchase").

Originally Posted by

purchasing Sailfish X outside of the Authorized Countries is prohibited.

Translates as: "just wait a little more".

Originally Posted by

align the wider sales opening to start at the same time with the SW distribution

Translates as: "we already know that our servers will be hit by a massive number of clients"

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mrsellout | # 1355 | 2017-10-04, 18:57 | Report

Originally Posted by alfmar View Post

Originally Posted by

Re-installing the native Android OS may not be possible and is not recommended, as you will not get all of the Android functionality back.

Translates as: "you won't be able to sell an Android Xperia X in future". Who actually cares? (note also the "sale is final, no refund if you regret purchase").

They're talking about losing the functionality associated with wiping the DRM keys here.

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Wolda | # 1356 | 2017-10-04, 19:01 | Report

Originally Posted by meatbiscuit View Post

Thanks for making it possible for us SFOS supporters that happen to be stateside. I can't send PMs, even though I've had this account for almost 8 years..., is this offer still available?

It surely is. In my profile, there should also be a link to my homepage with all the contact-info. Feel free to email me instead of a PMing (although a PM here is perhaps easier)

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maximilian1st | # 1357 | 2017-10-04, 19:35 | Report

This part really bothers me:

"Re-installing the native Android OS may not be possible and is not recommended, as you will not get all of the Android functionality back."

It would be a shame to not have the possibility to flash the phone back to it's original state with DRM keys and all.

Originally Posted by kinggo View Post

...
After all, 99.999999% of all sattelite receiveres are way more linux than any phone and yet, there's no linux channel editor. At least I never found one.

Because you use the wrong receiver ;-p
https://dreamboxedit.com/

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jakibaki | # 1358 | 2017-10-04, 19:50 | Report

Originally Posted by maximilian1st View Post

It would be a shame to not have the possibility to flash the phone back to it's original state with DRM keys and all.

You can still backup the drm keys and restore them without problems, it's just that Jolla won't officially support such a solution.

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mikecomputing | # 1359 | 2017-10-04, 20:13 | Report

Originally Posted by mariusmssj View Post

Sorry to be sound stupid but just trying to get my head around all of this.

We need to use EMMA tool to flash Xperia X with a sony android image that is more open than the one installed. After which you use the flash script to flash SFOS onto it?

Yes and you have to pay Microsoft for a windows **** license to flash a Linux phone. Thats the mos fun of all.

And yes I don't care if there is an unofficial flasher that "may" be used in Linux since not even Jolla is sure it will/is possible.

Thats an epic fail. To them who don't understand it I DONT HAVE WINDOWS AND I DONT WILL NOT BUY A WINDOWS LICENCE?

did you people get my point now or should I repeat one more time!?

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maximilian1st | # 1360 | 2017-10-04, 20:14 | Report

Originally Posted by jakibaki View Post

You can still backup the drm keys and restore them without problems, it's just that Jolla won't officially support such a solution.

I will dive into the subject before installing sailfish on the phone.

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