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    endsormeans | # 61 | 2018-03-12, 07:17 | Report

    ok...
    I must do some more digging...
    since I bought my place and moved ...I haven't had much time...
    this summer I hope to have more...
    So I did some quick digging through boxes...I must dig some more..
    for my spare n8x0's and accessories...
    I have kept out 1 n800 and 1 n810 for daily use and packed the rest...
    so I must find that cache of n8x0 stuff...

    anyway ....
    found one of my spares..in an unlikely box..
    .
    so...
    wicket..
    I have a spare n800 for you ...
    it is one I used to loan out to a friend until he managed somehow to literally break the steel stand for it.
    purely a cosmetic issue.

    I may or may not be able to help much...depends...
    But I can send you an n800 ...possibly an n810 as well ...(upon finding them)
    a battery (of dubious charge....at worst a few hours...but that matters little since usb and power are two separate cables...unlike the n900 n950 and n9...so such issues surrounding cable connections and charging are rather moot..)
    And a power cable...(which works for both the n800 and n810)
    usb cable for the n810 is the same as the n900...
    usb for the n800 is mini...not micro...which is quite common..as well.

    So wicket...
    I can send at the very least ...an n800 ...if not an n800 and a n810...
    Give me a few days...(even a week...to hunt down all my n8x0 stuff)
    and I can find out the cost to ship to you..
    You spring for the shipping and they are yours to work with ..
    I may or may not be much help...
    but I can donate ..

    once you play with 'em you're hooked...believe me...
    for example...just install xmms (LOVE xmms!)
    and play with that for a bit...and you'll see...

    as far as doing leste for the n950 and n9 first...
    well...
    perhaps it is possible that my judgement is clouded and I am biased...
    But I don't think so...
    do the n950 and n9 first?
    No man...
    Fcuk 'em ...
    those ugly buck - toothed fourth - cousin - removed b-tards have had it good long enough...let 'em wait.
    Do the n8x0's first.

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    NX500 | # 62 | 2018-03-12, 14:42 | Report

    Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
    Do the n900 first.
    Fix‘d

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    endsormeans | # 63 | 2018-03-12, 14:55 | Report

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YztNYiZrzo

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    wicket | # 64 | 2018-03-12, 19:38 | Report

    Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
    so...
    wicket..
    I have a spare n800 for you ...
    it is one I used to loan out to a friend until he managed somehow to literally break the steel stand for it.
    purely a cosmetic issue.

    I may or may not be able to help much...depends...
    But I can send you an n800 ...possibly an n810 as well ...(upon finding them)
    a battery (of dubious charge....at worst a few hours...but that matters little since usb and power are two separate cables...unlike the n900 n950 and n9...so such issues surrounding cable connections and charging are rather moot..)
    And a power cable...(which works for both the n800 and n810)
    usb cable for the n810 is the same as the n900...
    usb for the n800 is mini...not micro...which is quite common..as well.

    So wicket...
    I can send at the very least ...an n800 ...if not an n800 and a n810...
    Give me a few days...(even a week...to hunt down all my n8x0 stuff)
    and I can find out the cost to ship to you..
    You spring for the shipping and they are yours to work with ..
    I may or may not be much help...
    but I can donate ..

    once you play with 'em you're hooked...believe me...
    for example...just install xmms (LOVE xmms!)
    and play with that for a bit...and you'll see...
    Thank you endsormeans, that's very kind of you to offer, but let's just hold off for the moment though. After shipping and import duty, it often works out cheaper to get hold of one locally. So I'll have a look to see if I can get one here first.

    I'd also want to make sure I'd at least have a serial console before accepting any donation or it could be a complete waste of time and money. Lack of a serial console is what's hindering my N950 progress right now.

    Originally Posted by
    as far as doing leste for the n950 and n9 first...
    well...
    perhaps it is possible that my judgement is clouded and I am biased...
    But I don't think so...
    do the n950 and n9 first?
    No man...
    Fcuk 'em ...
    those ugly buck - toothed fourth - cousin - removed b-tards have had it good long enough...let 'em wait.
    Do the n8x0's first.
    Sorry to disappoint but I'm doing the N950 first as I already have one (well, on loan from Nokia ). I've already started it and I want to finish it. My intention is to attract more developers and I believe there are potentially more N9 developers than N8x0 (it will be easy enough to enable N9 builds once N950 is done). I'm nearly there, I have mainline Linux booting with the display using Pali's 0xFFFF, I just need to figure out what's going wrong with ubiboot.

    Originally Posted by NX500 View Post
    Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post
    Do the n900 first.
    Fix‘d

    10 chars
    I hope it didn't sound like the N900 is being neglected for other devices because that certainly isn't the case. We already have builds for the N900 and although they aren't yet ready for general use, rest assured there are more experienced people than me working to improve it everyday. What we lack right now is developers and by me looking at enabling other devices, I hope we can attract more developers. That will benefit the N900 in the long run as there is plenty of device agnostic stuff still to be fixed.

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    endsormeans | # 65 | 2018-03-12, 23:01 | Report

    There may possibly be more n9 developers watching and listening...
    But I really doubt there are more n9 developers than there were for the n8x0...
    It is just the bulk of the n8x0 developers have left and are not watching and listening at this point in time.

    Take for example ...
    All the recorded various alternate os's, de's and wm's done for the n900, n950 and n9 ...and add them all up ...
    and they don't even come close to the number of os's, de's, and wm's done for the n8x0 ...

    With the massive volume of years of easily accessible data ...
    and with some email's sent out to those departed n8x0 devels ...
    I think it would be done far faster than the n900, n950, and n9..

    But this is purely my perspective...

    As far as the shipping and import costs go for the donor n8x0's...
    I was considering that possibility of it being cheaper to source them locally....
    Let me know

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    wicket | # 66 | 2018-03-30, 21:20 | Report

    I thought I'd share some news which I'm genuinely very excited about...

    Incoming and outgoing calls are working with mainline Linux (on the Droid 4).

    It's only a matter of time before this lands in Leste.

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    wicket | # 67 | 2018-04-06, 03:26 | Report

    N950 coming soon...

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    Wizzup_ | # 68 | 2018-04-06, 08:50 | Report

    There is now a mediawiki, thanks to parazyd: https://leste.maemo.org/Main_Page

    There were lots of people who wanted to add bits to the wiki - there is absolutely no structure yet, so let's get this going. If at all possible, let's try to coordinate some wiki structure. Either on IRC, or here, on tmo (new thread or this thread, both fine by me).

    Are there people who want to take the lead on the wiki effort?

    (P.S. Yes, we can merge this wiki into the main maemo.org wiki at some point, but currently it seems to make more sense to keep this separate, as not to confuse pages that are relevant for diablo, fremantle, etc)

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    wicket | # 69 | 2018-04-06, 21:09 | Report

    Originally Posted by Wizzup_ View Post
    There were lots of people who wanted to add bits to the wiki - there is absolutely no structure yet, so let's get this going. If at all possible, let's try to coordinate some wiki structure. Either on IRC, or here, on tmo (new thread or this thread, both fine by me).
    I think we could start by migrating the devices from https://maemo-leste.github.io/ to the wiki.

    I'll take care of the initial pages for the N950 and N9 as I'm doing the ports.

    I think we should have an FAQ wiki page. We can start drafting questions and answers before writing them up on the wiki. I've started a draft FAQ here so if anyone has a question they would like answering, please add it there.

    I would also like to start migrating my mainline devices list to the wiki and I will expand it to start documenting SoCs and drivers supported by mainline Linux. What I would actually like to have is a database backend to store this information. It would need to be updated by editing the wiki. What I want is to build an extensive knowledge base that allows one to quickly see what's supported and what's missing for each device, even those which we haven't created ports for yet or don't even have DTs in mainline. That will help us to identify if there are any devices that have several drivers already available in mainline which would potentially be good candidates for further mainlining work.

    I found this extension. I think it's what I'm looking for. Has anyone got a better recommendation?

    Originally Posted by Wizzup_ View Post
    Are there people who want to take the lead on the wiki effort?
    I'd like to take the lead for documenting devices in mainline Linux. That's a job in itself so I'll leave it to someone else to lead the rest of the wiki.

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    peduism | # 70 | 2018-04-09, 20:55 | Report

    Hi and thanks to each and everyone of you who are working on this project! My friend just analyzed me and said that "with your linux you are a modern day amish and the N900 is your old Toyota Corolla". I disagree with him and what you are doing is helping me to prove his wrong. My contribution to this project is probably only to make you laugh cause I may ask stupid questions and suggest bad ideas cause I don't understand anything about coding or building or whatever. But just bought two N900s and gonna buy more and then found out that there are you guys who are doing some magic! Sooo glad!

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