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pichlo | # 11 | 2018-11-08, 19:52 | Report

I do not give a monkey's whether it is FOSS, MOSS or BOSS. Can they talk to each other? Can I use Dross or whatever the newest hit of the month is called and chat with my sister in Italy who uses Skype, my boss in the UK who uses Whatsapp and my colleague in the US who uses Slack? No? Then I am not interested. I already have three things to worry about. I do not need four.

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Macros | # 12 | 2018-11-08, 20:35 | Report

I took a quick look at Matrix.
You can find a Webclient here:
https://riot.im/app

It seems similar to Discord, IRC gateways are already implemented and @picholo it seems you can even bridge to Slack and Skype if you really want to.

https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq

What I am not sure of yet: Can you look at the history of IRC bridged channels? At least for the #bitcoin channel it dosn't seem to work.

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endsormeans | # 13 | 2018-11-08, 21:08 | Report

Sooooo...
Didn't bother to "actually" look at any of them then pichlo?
Yes?
If you had bothered to glance...
just at matrix ...as was mentioned...
you get all you want in one place instead of using multiple comm methods now...
there you go Mr Cranky Pants pichlo ...

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Halftux | # 14 | 2018-11-08, 21:20 | Report

Discord is a pompous tool which in my opinion eats to much resources, that's why I will always prefer mumble over discord for gaming.

BTW I have discord installed but I will only running it if I really need it for some communication. I don't think I will join the maemo channel.
I have skype, teamspeak, mumble, discord, irc and telegram but using these as a support channel only after a phone call or an email [1] conversation.

But in general it is good to have more possibilities. So I think it is nice to have a maemo discord channel.
Some disadvantage could be that information will be more spreaded.
I don't care as long the news get still posted in our forum.
But I could also think that you maybe need to ask your questions in the discord channel, on irc and in the forum, because it could be that sometimes you will only get an answer by only one method. How is the lifetime, where are the chat data stored? IRC proofed to have a long lifetime.

What is wrong with IRC and our nice answering bot

? Ok no push messages but do you have 24/7 time to answer in maemo channel? When I have some time I look in the irc logs and in the forum and I don't want to get push messages all the time

When there is something I could answer I log into irc or into the forum.

I doubt you will get a faster answer with discord, and I wish that I am wrong.

[1]Wiki link to e-mail, maybe not all people know this anymore it is quite handy. Sure you need to invest more time to configure it, as compared to only push a button to send your phone number but it is doable. Also from your communication there will be no money generated, if you use the right service. Sounds interesting or?

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Halftux | # 15 | 2018-11-08, 21:29 | Report

Originally Posted by HtheB View Post

- IRC is not for everyone.
(If someone sees everybody as themselves: Please remove the horse goggles and look around, not everyone is technical and knows how to use IRC and it's commands).

When somebody can't find out how to connect to an IRC channel and use IRC, how they could solve difficult problems with Maemo? Maemo is linux .... So I would guess to advanced for somebody who can't use irc.
I would say it is the lack of impulse and the laziness.

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Sohil876 | # 16 | 2018-11-08, 21:51 | Report

Originally Posted by Halftux View Post

When somebody can't find out how to connect to an IRC channel and use IRC, how they could solve difficult problems with Maemo? Maemo is linux .... So I would guess to advanced for somebody who can't use irc.
I would say it is the lack of impulse and the laziness.

Well beleive it or not many people like linux based os's, like terminal, etc but still dont prefer irc, im one of them, it has nothing to do with laziness i just dont like it, or maybe ive only used crap clients for android, can anyone recommend me a user friendly irc client for android so i cany give it a try again?. That said i dont think there any benefit at all for maemo community channel to be on discord, because its just not active enough, forum/wiki suits it fine.

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pichlo | # 17 | 2018-11-08, 22:13 | Report

Originally Posted by endsormeans View Post

Sooooo...
Didn't bother to "actually" look at any of them then pichlo?

I "did not bother to look" at many things. Smoking pot. Spinning my own threads to make my clothes. Living in a log cabin in Manitoba. Driving a submarine. The four new applications I only just heard about for the first time. There are not enough hours in the day to "look at" everything. One needs to prioritise.

Now that I know it "may" be worth my while to look at at least one of them, I may.

Originally Posted by

Mr Cranky Pants pichlo ...

Yup, that's me. In the flesh

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endsormeans | # 18 | 2018-11-09, 06:43 | Report

Well Mr Cranky pants ...If you used matrix for your one stop all you need comm with everyone...
why you would have even more free time to kick those durn kids off yur lawn...

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Android_808 | # 19 | 2018-11-09, 07:57 | Report

Firstly, let me thank you for your efforts. I will occasionally pop up on IRC but not very often. I don't know all the command but a decent IRC client takes care of that, so I see the use of a service like discord.

I also see the point regarding fragmentation of the user community (or what remains of it) as a potential issue. I can see an issue with having to send people back and forth to different services to get answers putting off potential new users.

So the way I see this going would be to use discord/ServiceXYZOfChoice as a test bed. Get some feedback, have a look at benefits and drawbacks after a defined period of time testing. Are we getting new members either only on discord, tmo or both? Are we getting feedback regarding issues with discord features or usability? Do we have cries to support SomeOtherService as well/instead? Can we consolidate services using a Riot.im service running on maemo.org?

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endsormeans | # 20 | 2018-11-09, 10:32 | Report

Very serious and very valid points made.

Foresight is forewarned...
whatever we implement ..if we implement ...
we must strictly utilize it so it does not fracture our community ...

Although my only counter arguments are...
has IRC liberated communications for Maemo Talk or has it split and made others leave one for the other...?

If it has or if it hasn't I do not see as relevant, IF a new and innovative service allows bridging between multiple services, then it binds everyone together just as close as now, if not closer., if not better.

And so back to to the noted foresight.
Whatever service is to be chosen should be done on those principals, to bind together better what already we have, so there is no dissemination, only greater harmony.

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