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I'm guessing there will be an OS2009? so do you think there will be a new improved version of the n810 or a whole new device (n900?)? if there are any definite plans for a new tablet, i might hold back until it comes out, seeing all those flaws with the system in a bunch of reviews.

does anyone have any mockups or news about a new one?

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There are no real news or mockups about a new tablet available. Nokia keeps this a secret. The first reliable indicator for a new tablet is when the FCC docs become available (usually a few weeks before the actual release).
You can bet on that Nokia is going to release a new tablet in 2009 (or maybe late 2008), and they have always been good for some surprise. But what it will look like or what it will feature... only some people at Nokia know at the moment.

I guess the new tablet will be built on a faster processor (ARM, not Intel Atom because ARM is used in mobile phones and Nokia uses phone parts for their tablets to make them cheap). It might feature 3D hardware acceleration and maybe a slightly higher resolution.
But I doubt the tablets will come with PIM software as long as they're placed in the N series instead of the E series.
 
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thanks. any estimated price point? how much do i need to save up to buy it?
 
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I would say 500 USD. But if you can find a second hand n800 for about 150$ it is well worth it to get into this world even now.
 
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Originally Posted by Vapourstreak View Post
thanks. any estimated price point? how much do i need to save up to buy it?
You'll probably have to fork over alot of cash. I think the new wimax tablet is around...$400ish? Not sure, considering I have absolutely no interest in it. Now, if they strip some of the nearly useless features from the old tablets (*cough* something that sounds oddly like "camera" *cough*) the price may go down a bit.
 
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Personally, I think that Nokia will do very well to maintain the ~$400-500 price range of the Internet Tablets, though I would clearly be a fan of lower prices.

When you let the price creep up closer to that $1k price tag, people expect MUCH more, imo. Keeping the Internet Tablets prices low is going to prove to be key, specially with the Intel and other MIDs start hitting (or flooding, however you see it) the market later this year. Price will be a key factor.
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Originally Posted by pycage View Post
You can bet on that Nokia is going to release a new tablet in 2009 (or maybe late 2008), and they have always been good for some surprise.
My money is on Fall 2008—we're in need of the generational upgrade, and that's about the time OMAP3 will really be up to speed.

Originally Posted by pycage View Post
I guess the new tablet will be built on a faster processor
Assuming we don't get anything out of left field, OMAP3430 is probably what it's gonna be (OMAP3440 may also be a possibility, but that one is really targeted at larger devices). So, something in the 600-700MHz range with (probably/hopefully) double the RAM and hardware video decoding and 2D/3D acceleration at a similar overall power usage to the OMAP2420 (so no real battery impact).

Originally Posted by pycage View Post
(ARM, not Intel Atom because ARM is used in mobile phones and Nokia uses phone parts for their tablets to make them cheap).
Well, that's part of the story. The other part being, primarily, that x86 just isn't anywhere near ready for the mobile space—especially not at NIT sizes. The Atom isn't an SoC, so you'll have to add a bunch more chips to the mix (and their power usage) to get the same functionality as one of the OMAP packages.

Nokia has a very strong relationship with TI which gets them big discounts, development assistance, and allows them to leverage their strong familiarity with the architecture. There's also a huge amount of momentum behind OMAP and ARM with the NITs, so a move to x86 (for no benefit at all) just doesn't make a lick of sense.

Originally Posted by pycage View Post
It might feature 3D hardware acceleration and maybe a slightly higher resolution.
The built-in controller on the OMAP3430 is able to drive up to 1024x768, so Nokia could upgrade the panel to the something like 1024x600 without issue (hopefully still at the same panel size ). This is much less extreme than it sounds when you consider the Mylo 2 running a 3.5" panel at 800x480. Hopefully we get a full 24bits, too

The OMAP3430 eliminates the need for a 3rd party controller, so (as long as we get drivers—Nokia'd be insane not to get them) we get OpenGL and hardware video decoding (h.264 ). Fast OpenGL and hardware decoding. . . .

Really, though, we've got nothing so far. Nokia doesn't (generally) announce future hardware or software plans, so this is all speculation at this point.
 

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Based on previous design changes it will probably be more of the same with a few critical changes.

CPU upgrade, but don't expect it to exceed 800Mhz
RAM upgrade, but I expect it to be only 256mb... above that it's overkill for small linux device
Limited, but functional, 3d.. probably something integrated with the latest OMAP.

I'm torn if they will have capacitive touch. I would hope so, but this device has always been cost sensitive. Even if they don't implement multi-touch the active screen can sense finger input much better.

I'm pretty positive that the footprint will only be getting smaller. I would hope they will try to slim down the longest edge to 4.6" to bring it in line with the current generation of phones.

EDIT: GA snuck in while I was typing and beat me to the punch on most of the items.

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Limited, but functional, 3d.. probably something integrated with the latest OMAP.
Ehehe, I don't think it'll be as limited as you're thinking. That PowerVR 530 SGX is a damn impressive core (look at the Axim running Quake 3 on a much older PowerVR core back 2005).

Anybody interested in getting a bit of a sneak preview at the sort of things we might expect should pay attention to what's going on over in Pandora land. They're gonna be running similar hardware to what we can expect in the N900. Recycling Pandora code on the N900 is a particularly exciting prospect here.

Originally Posted by brontide View Post
I'm torn if they will have capacitive touch. I would hope so, but this device has always been cost sensitive. Even if they don't implement multi-touch the active screen can sense finger input much better.
I'm going to say "no" on capacitive—the interface just isn't setup to be purely finger-driven. Besides, the biggest use for multitouch kinda went out the lock when we got a hardware keyboard. Hopefully they will drop a higher-quality touch panel in there in any case (especially for stuff like MyPaint).
 
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