Again on the 770 web browsing capabilities. I'm not allowed to log in on my bank securized web site using Opera. I tried to switch on GPE mini browser that works a step ahead, no more. I'm not a html expert but looking at the site html code I discovered that the login is based on javascript:

<script>
if (document.getElementById)
{
document.write('<div id="tc_divdeplace" style="position:absolute; left:-300px; top:-300px;">');
....
document.write(' <a class="cvcslienbouton" href="javascript:corriger()"><img id="tc_corriger" src="/img/cvcs/tc_corriger.gif" alt="CORRIGER"></a><br/>');
document.write(' <a class="cvcslienbouton" href="javascript:validation()"><img id="tc_valider" src="/img/cvcs/tc_valider.gif" alt="VALIDER"></a>');
...

Well, Opera is not allowed to access to any of the above code (script floating mask showing, etc) as GPE do entirely (unfortunately is not able to finalize the login..., GPE just close all the sessions).

Do GPE support javascript as it seems to do partially?

It seems also that several sites check the kind of browser you are using, if I'm not wrong:

<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="x" VALUE="">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="y" VALUE="">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="categNav" VALUE="">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="os" VALUE="">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="typeNav" VALUE="">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="versionNav" VALUE="">

this is an example of site requirement
Authorized browser (or later release ) :
Windows : Netscape 7.02 et supérieur, Mozilla (1.0.1), Internet Explorer 5.5 SP2, Internet Explorer 6.0 et Opéra 7.6
Mac OS : Netscape 7.02 , Mozilla (1.0.1) et Safari
Linux : Netscape 7.02 , Mozilla (1.0.1) et Opéra 7.6
Not allowed : Netscape 6.2 , Internet Explorer 4 , Opéra 7.54 , Internet Explorer 5 for Mac OS, browser with 40 et 56 bits secured.

Any chance to solve the last using "mimic" code in the small Opera release for the 770 to trick the sites check?

thank and regards

N770 is only an INTERNET TABLET if it supports the main existing WEBSITE techniques like your case and websites which need JAVAVM.

Currently N770 does not support important techniques. It is only a toy not a serious Internet Tablet.

Now it is only a toy, to throw away after short usage (I have 15 toys in my desk collected over 30 years).

No one wants to carry around 2 or 3 devices. Each device supporting a needed requirement.

NOKIA should tell us when the N770 becomes a REAL Internet Tablet.

...Subsecond

Internet banking sites are renowned for being implemented in browser specific ways. For example, it's only recently my online banking site started supporting (and allowing to logon) Firefox.

Personally, Natwest Online Banking doesn't require Java; just Javascript.

However, I agree there should be a JVM in the 770 - especially if Nokia licence the Jazella extension information from ARM; but I don't think the lack of one discounts the 770 as a "toy".

Cheers,

Andrew

Andrew,

it definitely is a toy.

I opened my drawer:

I see Motorola Accompli 008, IPAQ with phone sleeve and pcmcia sleeve, MDA, MDA III

On my desk Nokia 7650, Nokia 8310

Not one supports JVM properly. I tried all offerings over the years. I assume Bill Gates has a pocketpc with javavm. It is a shame for the great software nation USA not being able to provide such a piece of software - and shame to symbian also. I forgot my other toy PSION which also rests in my drawer.

Just a remark. I joined IBM in 1968 and was in 1973 in a development team in Palo Alto Cal. The program we developed is still running on the host in Germany of one of my customers.

Thanks god there is my IBM Thinkpad X40 and my T-Mobile UMTS Card. This combination is a perfect workhorse.

Now we have new hope with ORIGAMI and The HuchiKuchi which is a Tablet running OS X from Apple.

I think Nokia should do something to speed up the move from toy to workhorse.

I can wait.

...Subsecond

no it's not a toy. :P

Hallo disq, I have nothing against toys. I liked them all my live. Did I have more toys. Yes I hade EPSON H20 - DIN A4 DOS BASIC calculator and a small ATARI notebook. They all disappeared fom the market. Not to mention my collection of HP Calculators 41, 41c , 97, 48. I had a lot of fun.

I predict You will buy the next N770 which then is a real internet tablet.

Given the speed of hardware development - processor and storage - this may happen end of this year or beginning of next year. May be it even has an UMTS chip. If this happens and it has a real internet browser, then I call it a Internet Tablet.

Take it easy and have fun with your Internet Toy.

..Subsecond

after reading your post i got worried because thats one of the reasons i bought this thing for.

so the first thing when i got home, i tried all my account and i have no problem logging in to all my banks and financial website. i have 6 different ones that i log onto. i guess im lucky then.

the only problem i had once logging on was when i use the typing shortcut to type in my user name. that give me a java script error i think and a notice. i dont remember what that was and so i just retried it by just tapping in all the letters and numbers.

oh i dont know what my banks use for their website
hope this helps somewhat.

problem solved by the 2006 update, now everythings works fine. tested with all the previously no-working accounts! great

Subsecond: You do not seem to know the difference between "JavaScript" and "Java".

"JavaScript" is the common name for ECMAScript, a website scripting language supported by all major browsers, including the 770's Opera. Many sites use it and depend on it. It has no relation to "Java", except some syntax similarities and no reliance on a Java VM.

"Java" is Sun Microsystem's platform independant object oriented programming language. The only connection it has with web pages is that you can embed Java "Applets" into webpages, in the same way you can embed flash or other plugins. Java requires a Java VM. The 770 does not include a JVM, but there are efforts to port an open source JVM, JamVM.

"Now we have new hope with ORIGAMI and The HuchiKuchi which is a Tablet running OS X from Apple."

"HuchiKuchi"... HAHAHAHAHAHA! What a joke (literally). Subsecond must believe everything he reads... what a shame.