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    dont | # 141 | 2008-06-11, 15:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by andrewfblack View Post
    Unless Nokia starts selling these in a store they will die one day.
    How about if Nokia packaged the together with a BT phone and did a deal with the cell-phone providers to subsidize them in return for a multi-year contract?

    I am not personally interested in such a deal, but it would get the Nxxx out in the wild. Right now, you have to know they exist and really, really want one to be bothered to find out how to buy one.

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    Texrat | # 142 | 2008-06-11, 15:18 | Report

    That's a darn good idea IMO.

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    tso | # 143 | 2008-06-11, 15:54 | Report

    thanks, but no thanks. i prefer sonyericsson handsets but i love the nokia N800 for its linux base

    now, if nokia starts shipping linux based phones that are as open, or more so, as the N800, im game.

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    qole | # 144 | 2008-06-11, 16:37 | Report

    Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
    A whole slew of PMPs. Archos, especially. They don't do much else, though.
    I see the Archos 605 4GB WiFi is a close match to the tablets price-wise and spec-wise (same size screen, SD card compatible, etc). None of the other Archos MPs seem to fit.

    And Archos claims they play "up to DVD resolution" without transcoding. Anyone have one? Can it play a video at the full screen resolution of 800x480 at at least 24fps?

    Interesting... they have an "optional Opera browser plugin"... "Optional" smells like "more money"

    Oh, and the Pepper Pad is exactly what I'm NOT talking about. It is 2.5 to 3 times the price of an N800.

    Originally Posted by Frankowitz View Post
    I personally haven't used [my tablet] in months. Another paper-weight for my collection.
    Nice to see that you still visit the forums to post snarky comments, though!

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    GeneralAntilles | # 145 | 2008-06-11, 16:43 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    Interesting... they have an "optional Opera browser plugin"... "Optional" smells like "more money"
    Everything about the Archos is "more money". The browser (which pretty much sucks), more codecs (mpeg2 was $29.99 last time I checked), etc, etc

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    qwerty12 | # 146 | 2008-06-11, 16:48 | Report

    Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
    Everything about the Archos is "more money". The browser (which pretty much sucks), more codecs (mpeg2 was $29.99 last time I checked), etc, etc
    Indeed. IMHO, it just makes them look like tramps.

    As soon as my friend connected his Archos 605 wifi to the internet and plugged in the charger, a window came up advertising the dock which can charge too for it

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    qole | # 147 | 2008-06-11, 17:10 | Report

    Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
    Everything about the Archos is "more money". The browser (which pretty much sucks), more codecs (mpeg2 was $29.99 last time I checked), etc, etc
    I'm hunting around, trying to find out about the video playback. I came across this review which claims the browser is better than the N800's (circa Summer 2007). Interesting that they'd even mention the N800.

    I'm trying to find out if they play back the video at full resolution, or if they cheat and have a way to down-sample on the fly. The reason I'm wondering is because I'm wondering if the NITs would have that ability -- decode a hi-res video, halve the resolution, pump it through the LCD controller bottleneck, and then double it back up using the overlay. The video would look decent, the user wouldn't have to transcode, everyone would be happy...

    EDIT: It is very frustrating. Nobody puts these devices through rigorous testing, like they do at the camcorderinfo.com website. Yes, I know what the posted playback resolution is, but what's the actual playback resolution? Did you display a test pattern and see if there were any missing pixels? No, of course not...

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    GeneralAntilles | # 148 | 2008-06-11, 17:13 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    I'm trying to find out if they play back the video at full resolution, or if they cheat and have a way to down-sample on the fly. The reason I'm wondering is because I'm wondering if the NITs would have that ability -- decode a hi-res video, halve the resolution, pump it through the LCD controller bottleneck, and then double it back up using the overlay. The video would look decent, the user wouldn't have to transcode, everyone would be happy...
    As far as I remember, the 605 can output 720p. Being a PMP, it's got very good hardware decoding.

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    qole | # 149 | 2008-06-11, 17:19 | Report

    Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
    As far as I remember, the 605 can output 720p. Being a PMP, it's got very good hardware decoding.
    The claim is that it can output 720p, with the optional DVR station. But I want to know if the Archos has the same bottleneck that the N800 has, and if they work around it by reducing the video resolution after decoding it. But nobody does rigorous testing.

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    Benson | # 150 | 2008-06-11, 17:29 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    I'm trying to find out if they play back the video at full resolution, or if they cheat and have a way to down-sample on the fly. The reason I'm wondering is because I'm wondering if the NITs would have that ability -- decode a hi-res video, halve the resolution, pump it through the LCD controller bottleneck, and then double it back up using the overlay. The video would look decent, the user wouldn't have to transcode, everyone would be happy...
    OK, then everyone's happy?

    (Yeah, it needs some integration; the script is great for CLI-happy wierdos like you, but Canola really should handle it... or something.)

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