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TA-t3 | # 1321 | 2008-09-13, 11:40 | Report

Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post

Most people use a headset of some form (bluetooth, wired, whatever),

I have the opposite impression. I don't believe that's true at all, in fact. Many start out with headsets (I'm one of them), but eventually it's put away because it's too much of a hassle. I've just counted through about 40 people and one of them used a headset, nobody else did.

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And, let me get this straight... you're defending not having to re-buy your NIT by saying "I had to re-buy my phone". So, either way, you have to re-buy a device. But with a WWAN-NIT, you only have to carry _1_ device, instead of 2.

What you describe is actually the 3rd option, not a built-in sim card slot but some kind of adapter that could be replaced. I have never seen such a thing so I'm not going to argue for or against that at all. I'm certainly not willing to go into a discussion about that, what _I_ argued against was SIM card slot or not.

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And "yet another carrier contract" -- you didn't have to do that with your phone?

No, I didn't.

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If you didn't, then you didn't get the discount.

I most certainly did. The first of those phones were almost free. The second the same. The third one was about $90. It's just a case of doing this in a group. I have BTW always argued for simplistic, cheap phones with BT and 3G and nothing else, as a good companion to a NIT.

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Same options if we're talking about a WWAN-NIT. You can buy the NIT off-contract and use your existing SIM card and service, no problem. If you buy on-contract, you get the discount.

Really, your arguments vary between condescending non-truths, moot statements, or self-contradictory statements that end up being the same with or without the WWAN inside the NIT.

I'M NOT DISCUSSING BLOODY WWAN! Will you please stop trying to drag me into a discussion I didn't even enter. I VERY CLEARLY argued against a built-in SIM card, nothing else. Who's the condescending one here? YOU're the one building up a straw man argument here.

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allnameswereout | # 1322 | 2008-09-13, 15:42 | Report

@ John, I did not write that. It was mistakenly added in my post.

Originally Posted by tso View Post

if so, why did you get a tablet?

The topic concerns a future tablet.

Bundyo | # 1323 | 2008-09-13, 17:29 | Report

Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post

I have the opposite impression. I don't believe that's true at all, in fact. Many start out with headsets (I'm one of them), but eventually it's put away because it's too much of a hassle. I've just counted through about 40 people and one of them used a headset, nobody else did.

Yeah, i have a BT headset and it sits in a drawer at home from some time now. If it was stereo and multipoint, i'll probably use it ('cause i listen to music quite often on the go), but now its just another complication.

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johnkzin | # 1324 | 2008-09-13, 18:56 | Report

Originally Posted by TA-t3 View Post

What you describe is actually the 3rd option, not a built-in sim card slot but some kind of adapter that could be replaced. I have never seen such a thing so I'm not going to argue for or against that at all. I'm certainly not willing to go into a discussion about that, what _I_ argued against was SIM card slot or not.

PCI-Express Mini-Card for HSPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS

And they're not the only maker of PCI-Express Mini-Cards. Nor is it a terribly new product (HP had one on the market at least 2 or 3 years ago).

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I'M NOT DISCUSSING BLOODY WWAN! Will you please stop trying to drag me into a discussion I didn't even enter. I VERY CLEARLY argued against a built-in SIM card, nothing else. Who's the condescending one here? YOU're the one building up a straw man argument here.

What EXACTLY do you see as the difference between "whether or not you should have a WWAN built in to the NIT" and "whether or not you should have a SIM card slot built in to the NIT"?

The only sensical way you can differentiate them is if you're biased about WWAN technologies. Such as: "you should be able to use a WiMAX WWAN, but not an UMTS/HSPA WWAN". And that's an argument I'd love to hear.

We've got 4 WWAN choices: CDMA/EVDO, GSM/UMTS, WiMAX, and LTE ... with LTE not being deployed at all yet. Which of these WWANs do think should or shouldn't be available built in to the NIT? We know you're already against GSM/UMTS and LTE, because you're against the SIM card. What about CDMA/EVDO and WiMAX?

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allnameswereout | # 1325 | 2008-09-13, 19:04 | Report

GlobeTrotter/Option for example http://www.option.com/products/overview.shtml for example, also also see Linux 3G project.

tso | # 1326 | 2008-09-13, 19:16 | Report

Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post

The topic concerns a future tablet.

ah, so your here on the forum, not because you have one, but would want one if it had some kind of 3G connection and could do that phone thing?

openmoko.org is somewhere on the web, have fun

allnameswereout | # 1327 | 2008-09-13, 19:22 | Report

Originally Posted by tso View Post

ah, so your here on the forum, not because you have one, but would want one if it had some kind of 3G connection and could do that phone thing?

If you don't like the subject of this thread or where its leading to you're free to ignore it.

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openmoko.org is somewhere on the web, have fun

OpenMoko doesn't have 3G support.

Texrat | # 1328 | 2008-09-14, 09:16 | Report

Oops, too much time between official announcements. That always correlates with a rise in testosterone.

Aisu | # 1329 | 2008-09-14, 12:56 | Report

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post

Oops, too much time between official announcements. That always correlates with a rise in testosterone.

I'm sure you could lower that and restore peace/order if you were to... oh... I don't know... give us a bloody hint atleast!

What would happen if iTT imploded due to a lack of official news!? How would you feel if we all died in a tragic... a tragic... ehm.... forum fire! Yeah...

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iamNarada | # 1330 | 2008-09-14, 15:52 | Report

Originally Posted by Texrat View Post

Oops, too much time between official announcements. That always correlates with a rise in testosterone.

Is that a personal observation or has this revelation permeated the PR core at NIT central yet? If not, perhaps, you could, at the very least, make them aware of the ..... climate and their underlaying dynamics, in the event that should they so desire, they could, maybe, rectify the situation.