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2008-10-04 , 18:53
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I'm still thinkin' Guns and Religion will pull us through.
 
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2008-10-04 , 18:57
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Originally Posted by ch8xy View Post
If Beiden is top of the ticket, I would vote Democratc. Obama can do some good work as VP, and be president next time around. He can certainly talk, but I want to see a few more years worth of records. Then we can see if he is presidental material or not. Has the media seriously looked into his state records?
Before you vote McCain, you better think. He has a 1 in 7 chance not surviving hist first term. If he were to have a second term, it would be about 1 in 3.3 chance of not surviving

Are you ready for President Palin?

God help us all!
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2008-10-04 , 19:12
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Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
Before you vote McCain, you better think. He has a 1 in 7 chance not surviving hist first term. If he were to have a second term, it would be about 1 in 3.3 chance of not surviving

Are you ready for President Palin?

God help us all!
Isn't his mother... ehm... 96? It appears that heredity may be on his side...
 
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2008-10-04 , 19:29
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Originally Posted by andreww View Post
What exactly is the will of the people? Last I checked, it was whatever the last 30-second ad they saw told them to think. How is this good?
The will of the people is generally the same now as it was a hundred years ago. We want to be treated fairly, we want our leaders (and neighbors) to follow the law, and we want an opportunity to become better (and wealthier, and more powerful).

You clearly meant the will of a person.

I know it's not fair, but if you can't devote an hour or two to becoming an informed voter and showing that you have some critical thinking skills, why bother claiming that that "will" is anything more than what someone much more powerful is telling them to think? Blame the corporations or blame the people, either way it's the same result. No way we'll ever get around it as long as it's ok to be uninformed.
A statistic on the topic of "uninformed voters" would be lovely, unless that's just your little thought...

And just look at this latest insane bill to go up to Congress. The bailout? The Senate and the president want you to think it's good, and to just shut up and go with it. But, the majority of America doesn't like it at all, even though these very powerful people want them to.

And, well, even if your right about voters being uninformed, that's why we have an electoral college anyway. The people really don't get to choose. (Thank those old Virginia aristos for that.)
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2008-10-04 , 20:07
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Isn't his mother... ehm... 96? It appears that heredity may be on his side...
I don't know if his Mom has had skin cancer, but probably not; and she certainly didn't suffer 4 years of torture. I've never heard anybody say it does a body good. Not to mention, ANYBODY could die in the next four years. (An athletic, robust husband of a friend of mine, for example, died at age 36 of a brain tumor. We all know of cases like that.)
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2008-10-04 , 20:40
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Isn't his mother... ehm... 96? It appears that heredity may be on his side...
Did you see her at RNC, she looked completely confused about where she was. I am not sure that's helping your case.
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I have no idea about the validity, but this letter is certainly getting some attention:

My Holiday with John McCain
 
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2008-10-04 , 20:46
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To all you guys who think you are doing us common folks a favor by touting analysis, calculation, voting with country, future, blah blah blah in mind: save your breath! You are overestimating yourselves. Think about it: there is nothing wrong for, let's say, a 70 year old with no education who just wants someone he can trust to look after his interest. And guess what: his one vote counts as much as yours, even if you have a Ph.D. Everybody gets to vote any way he likes. Both sides have Ph.D.s, lawyers, doctors, experts, etc. Do'nt tell me your side is better than mine. The way I see it, there is not much difference between politics and spectator sport.
 
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2008-10-04 , 20:57
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To all you guys who think you are doing us common folks a favor by touting analysis, calculation, voting with country, future, blah blah blah in mind: save your breath! You are overestimating yourselves. Think about it: there is nothing wrong for, let's say, a 70 year old with no education who just wants someone he can trust to look after his interest. And guess what: his one vote counts as much as yours, even if you have a Ph.D. Everybody gets to vote any way he likes. Both sides have Ph.D.s, lawyers, doctors, experts, etc. Do'nt tell me your side is better than mine. The way I see it, there is not much difference between politics and spectator sport.
My side is better than yours !!!
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2008-10-04 , 21:01
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Who just farted?
 
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