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2008-10-28 , 13:29
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#111
Originally Posted by xxM5xx View Post
No it is not.
Hmm. Strange. Here it says: While such interfaces as Ethernet, FireWire, and USB all send data as a serial stream, the term "serial port" usually identifies hardware more or less compliant to the RS-232 standard, intended to interface with a modem or with a similar communication device.

And for clarification. In reference to no device did I say leave off the USB port. You misunderstand what someone who has a different view than you writes. You don't seem to be able to comprehend what someone might mean with specific terms, or you just assume it means whatever you believe is the Right Interpretation.

PS: For the record, this is the only thing I said about FireWire: nothing.
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2008-10-28 , 13:32
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#112
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My views add to the discussion if those views address the Future of the Internet Tablet. Someone here says leave off the USB port. They say leave off buttons. They say look to Apple's products for guidance to the Future of NiT. I post counter points to those views. Sorry you fail to understand that much of what I contributed here IS related to the Future of the IT as I would like it to take shape.
Thats sounds very good, but when I was comparing features of a phone+PDA conbo (iPhone, Dell Axim, Xo etc) it was you who were religiosly pointing out your 'iPhone dogma'.

And also interjecting such statements as

As I said earlier in this thread, if Nokia is to learn anything from Apple, it would be to pervert it's behavior into that of thieves, liars, and hype artisans. Apple has a rich history in all of it (the thefts, the lies, the hype without substance)...and you seem to worship them. I hope Nokia does NOT allow itself to be influenced by it...or by those like you.
This has nothing to do with discussing features or functions of any device but all to do with your bigotry towards 1 particular device. Which is what I mean by not contributing to the discussion.

Beleive me when I say this - we have all become tired of iPhone comparisons ourselves and iPhone zelotry is as much hated as anti-iPhone zealotry. We all appreciate a healthy discussion cmparing feature to feature, function to function, form to form with any device, be it the iPhone too.
We are not interested in Steve Jobs or Svengali (and no I dont know the meaning and I didn't look it up anywhere as that is not pertinent to the discussion here), or if Apple is involved in theft, or in some form of artistry which is hyped or is a pervert or is Steve Jobs a pervert or should I worship them or not and all that crap. This is not adding anything to the discussion anyways.

So lets call it a day - and get back to discussing the future of IT.
And I do apreciate where you are actually discussing features or function (like the USB/Serial thread).
 
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2008-10-28 , 13:34
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#113
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*ding* may i suggest 5 min timeout?
Haha, good point referree
 
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2008-10-28 , 13:38
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#114
Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
That is how I'm feeling the whole time in this thread. In GNOME the default is simple and you have many choices to extend it. The default choices are the user's first experience. They should be pleasant. I'm pro ability of extending. But I don't need a serial and paralel port on my PC, I don't need an embedded Cray, and I don't need 100 incompatible WiFi cards.
Yes... IN GNOME. That's why i use it. Guess why I don't use an iPhone.
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2008-10-28 , 13:42
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#115
Originally Posted by xxM5xx View Post
Linus Torvalds saying, "Gnome seems to be developed by interface nazis..."

LOL that was too much.
That was long time ago, things have been changing since then.
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2008-10-28 , 13:43
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#116
we have choice.

both camps can be catered for without any kind of issue whatsoever.
this is linux - choose your favorite.

However, from Nokias' POV doesn't it make sense to give simple usable interface *by default*?
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2008-10-28 , 13:46
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Originally Posted by lcuk View Post
we have choice.

both camps can be catered for without any kind of issue whatsoever.
this is linux - choose your favorite.

However, from Nokias' POV doesn't it make sense to give simple usable interface *by default*?
Yup, Fremantle FTW
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2008-10-28 , 13:50
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#118
The Future of the Internet Tablet. I hope Nokia refrains from marketing future NiTs in ways similar to those adopted by A**le. I also feel deeply that there are pitfalls in associating this lovely hardware with "carriers" who in bundling, subsidizing and distributing it in the USA would change it in ways which would ruin it.
 

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There is nothing at all wrong with a mass market clean product which is both functional and intuitive.

I really see your reservations about it to be petty and not helpful.
I see no reason at all that says you will not be able to make your Internet Tablet do exactly what you want it to - hell, I came to this platform for exactly this reason.

I have a piece of software which does things in a completely new way, if the platform were locked down I couldn't attempt that and I certainly wouldn't be helped along the way as I have so far by the amazing people in this community.

I hate vendor lock in for phones, but that has not even been discussed - all we know is it will have a cellular radio.
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2008-10-28 , 14:06
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#120
I don't want to be petty.

This is related to of which I speak:

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

T-Mobile pulled this off their site. They don't want people to know. This could happen with NiTs too.
 
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