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Originally Posted by zii
Well, siince they're doing the N810W in some sort of partnership with xohm, things might have gotten ugly if it didn't work on xohm...
This article notes that there are a lot of 3.5Ghz Wimax roll outs across the US.
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=162200
Why did Nokia put a 2.5Ghz transceiver into the N810, which apart from XOHM, many have decided to use 3.5Ghz?
Also, it's not like everyone else is on 3.5, there are a good many 2.5 and also 2.3 deployments out there; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...WiMAX_networks for info on quite a few. If 3.5 does becomes dominant in sufficiently worthwhile markets, I see no reason they wouldn't produce a 3.5 version.
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Chart lists 2.5Ghz in these countries,
USA
Angola
Brazil
New Zealand
Russia
Singapore and Venezuela
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Originally Posted by Benson
The WiMax edition was started in 2006 (not a typo), announced at CES 2007, and languished until now when XOHM languished until now. Even if Nokia had the presence of mind to design beyond XOHM (and I don't think they did), at that time, there were no commercially available multiband WiMax rf chips.
Well, siince they're doing the N810W in some sort of partnership with xohm, things might have gotten ugly if it didn't work on xohm...
Also, it's not like everyone else is on 3.5, there are a good many 2.5 and also 2.3 deployments out there; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...WiMAX_networks for info on quite a few. If 3.5 does becomes dominant in sufficiently worthwhile markets, I see no reason they wouldn't produce a 3.5 version.
Please note than no one has yet been able to get the Wimax version tablet operating on any Wimax network other than XOHM. (I hope this changes soon)
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Originally Posted by zii
Mayybe that decision was based on the amount of units,N8XX, that had been sold in the US.
Why did Nokia put a 2.5Ghz transceiver into the N810, which apart from XOHM, many have decided to use 3.5Ghz?
I hope that I there is something that I have missed that will make this all make sence to me.
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Well, that does mean its not necessarily a 'WiMAX Edition'. If you take Austria, for example, there is nation-wide WiMAX rolled out but for 3.5 GHz. But if it'd work on WiMAX 2.5 GHz it'd be neither a WiMAX nor a Xohm Edition; it'd be a WiMAX 2.5 GHz edition. I suppose some WiMAX chipsets support multiple bands; at least in the HS*PA/UMTS chips this is possible.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Riiight. And any so-called "GSM phone" that doesn't support all of the GSM bands--400 MHz, 450 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, and 1900 MHz--is an impostor. The same for any WiFi gear that doesn't support channels 1 through 14.
Well, that does mean its not necessarily a 'WiMAX Edition'.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
People on this thread need to realize that 3.5GHz WiMAx networks weren't around the US 2 years ago and are still few and far between. The chips may come around eventually (for the major bands), just like the multiband GSM chips did.
Well, that does mean its not necessarily a 'WiMAX Edition'. If you take Austria, for example, there is nation-wide WiMAX rolled out but for 3.5 GHz. But if it'd work on WiMAX 2.5 GHz it'd be neither a WiMAX nor a Xohm Edition; it'd be a WiMAX 2.5 GHz edition. I suppose some WiMAX chipsets support multiple bands; at least in the HS*PA/UMTS chips this is possible.
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Exactly. The name of the standard doesn't say everything which confuses customers. But it only matters when it bites you.
Riiight. And any so-called "GSM phone" that doesn't support all of the GSM bands--400 MHz, 450 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, and 1900 MHz--is an impostor. The same for any WiFi gear that doesn't support channels 1 through 14.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
This is true for almost every standard though. Even in cases where providing more explicit information is encouraged by the standards bodies--"USB Hi-Speed" and "32-bit PCI" being examples of this--problems can still occur. For the examples just given, power requirements and the number of inline hubs/bridges can result in non-working configurations.
The name of the standard doesn't say everything...
See also the previous Internet Tablets, which fail to connect to the Internet in those locations that use unsupported WiFi authentication methods. Shockingly, Nokia neglects to disclose the full list of supported authentication methods--and all other detailed specifications--in the name of each tablet.
Originally Posted by allnameswereout
Well, considering...
...which confuses customers.
Originally Posted by Nokia Europe
...and comes in a box featuring prominent XOHM logos, those potential confused customers should need to go out of their way a bit to become, well, customers. However, should they go to the trouble, they may also be disappointed to find they need a NEMA 1-15R outlet for the charger bundled with the WiMAX Edition tablet, another fact not disclosed by the product name.The Nokia N810 WiMAX Edition is only available in the US.
You're tilting at windmills.
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I read on the ofcom website that there is, or was, an auction for 2.5Ghz, but there are many licences granted in 3.5Ghz (and some in 28Ghz). I would like to know if there is any point in buying a 2.5Ghz wimax device in the UK, or even Europe, if noone is using it.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/2ghzregsnotice/
More worryingly, it seems that the blocks of spectrum is so wide, we might end up with WiMax devices in Spain not working in the UK or Denmark because each country is not using the same spectrum, which means one would have to buy a seperate device for each country one travels to. Similar to the dualband GSM handsets (900/1800Mhz) not working in the US. One had to buy a tri-band handset for 1,900Mhz. I cannot guarentee my wimax device will work anywhere else
This article notes that there are a lot of 3.5Ghz Wimax roll outs across the US.
http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=162200
Why did Nokia put a 2.5Ghz transceiver into the N810, which apart from XOHM, many have decided to use 3.5Ghz?
I hope that I there is something that I have missed that will make this all make sence to me.
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