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    Boot from SD on ext3 with Diablo 43-7 on N800

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    WorkingOnWise | # 1 | 2008-12-24, 02:42 | Report

    I did it before, with the first release of Diablo. I remember using nupgrade.sh to wipe and format the partition as ext3. Today, i cant find what thread i used to know where i got nupgrade.sh from, or what its command line options are!

    Here's what i need to get done
    Clone my OS2008, with the latest update, 43-7, onto an 8GB SD card, then flash the kernel so i can boot the cloned os. The SD cards main partition must be ext3.
    I would also like to be able to rotate the screen, see if I want to flip it 180 since I'm a lefty. screen rotate isn't critacle though.
    Penguinbaits console tools seems to have problems on the N800's, so that isn't an option yet.

    Help!!!!!

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    Last edited by WorkingOnWise; 2008-12-24 at 03:19.

     
    nemo | # 2 | 2008-12-24, 03:57 | Report

    Just make sure your clone to SD before updating to Diablo 43-7, then;
    Boot to SD and update.
    It will reboot when done updating but bootmenu will be screwed so it will boot to flash.
    Update to 43-7 while booted to flash.
    It will reboot when done updating but bootmenu will be screwed so it will boot to flash.
    Reinstall boot menu.
    Reboot.

    oh, and I'm guessing you got nupgrade.sh from here. (see step 7.1+)

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    WorkingOnWise | # 3 | 2008-12-24, 04:34 | Report

    I already have 43-7 installed, an with as bad as my internet connection has been, tnere's no way i'm gonna try reflashing.
    That is where i originally got nupgrade.sh from. thanks.

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    nemo | # 4 | 2008-12-24, 04:41 | Report

    Yeah, I have a n800 too and was unable to figure out PBs fandagled new gui setup so I had to reflash to the previous SSU and then cloned it manually.

    Sorry, I hope you get it figured out.

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    bunanson | # 5 | 2008-12-24, 04:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by WorkingOnWise View Post
    ...Here's what i need to get done
    Clone my OS2008, with the latest update, 43-7, onto an 8GB SD card, then flash the kernel so i can boot the cloned os. The SD cards main partition must be ext3.
    I would also like to be able to rotate the screen, see if I want to flip it 180 since I'm a lefty. screen rotate isn't critacle though.
    Penguinbaits console tools seems to have problems on the N800's, so that isn't an option yet.

    Help!!!!!
    http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...lified&page=30, thread #292

    bun

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    WorkingOnWise | # 6 | 2008-12-24, 15:52 | Report

    Mr. Penguinbait deserves a big fat consulting fee from Nokia for making their customers lives better when they wont!!
    His console tools now has a very n00b friendly pbeasy app, and it is just what i meeded!

    Hey Nokia, ain't it amazing what great software on great hardware can do? Hint hint.

    Thanks Penguinbait!!

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    allnameswereout | # 7 | 2008-12-24, 17:26 | Report

    Ext3 is a journaling FS. This isn't good for the lifetime of your SD card. You might want to prefer Ext2 instead.

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    penguinbait | # 8 | 2008-12-24, 18:31 | Report

    Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
    Ext3 is a journaling FS. This isn't good for the lifetime of your SD card. You might want to prefer Ext2 instead.
    I personally have kingston sd cads some for 3 years now working great as swap, ext3, clone after clone after clone, I am sure nobody beats on their cards like me.

    While my kingston cards do haved a lifetime warranty, I have never ever had an issue with any sd card dying.

    ext3 also saves you from running fsck after any crashes

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    Last edited by penguinbait; 2008-12-24 at 18:35.

     
    allnameswereout | # 9 | 2008-12-25, 17:47 | Report

    Do you use any virtual memory?

    It depends on the size of the card as well. Its a bigger issue on smaller cards.

    On SanDisk do keep 13 MB free for wear leveling.

    For archival purposes Ext3 is perfect on flash. That is not the case here.

    One should not require fsck on the NIT because it shouldn't crash. If you're using a SD card for development purposes and the device does crash a lot Ext3 on a dedicated SD card (for development) is recommended.

    The issue isn't necessarily that the SD card dies though. The issue is silent data corruption, or that the device hangs during a read or write cycle. Perhaps that explains why you have to fsck a lot. Who knows.

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    penguinbait | # 10 | 2008-12-25, 18:16 | Report

    Originally Posted by allnameswereout View Post
    Do you use any virtual memory?

    It depends on the size of the card as well. Its a bigger issue on smaller cards.

    On SanDisk do keep 13 MB free for wear leveling.

    For archival purposes Ext3 is perfect on flash. That is not the case here.

    One should not require fsck on the NIT because it shouldn't crash. If you're using a SD card for development purposes and the device does crash a lot Ext3 on a dedicated SD card (for development) is recommended.

    The issue isn't necessarily that the SD card dies though. The issue is silent data corruption, or that the device hangs during a read or write cycle. Perhaps that explains why you have to fsck a lot. Who knows.
    If you are running ext2 and you crash, you should boot to flash and run fsck the partition, if you do not you will have data corruption. This is why I automated that process for install tools which only created ext2 partitions. I have a sandisk 1 GB, kingston 2gb mmcmobile, kingston 8GB sdhc, and a kingston 4GB microsdhc. I have never ever had a problem with ext3 causing data corruption on my tablet. Again I run a swap partition on all my cards, and do not use the internal "virtual memory" swap file.

    Perhaps if you have some cheap card it may be an issue, but my sandisk and kingstons have never let me down.


    As far as your NIT not crashing, huh, I must have one with defects.

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