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2009-02-16 , 19:45
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Depends on where you live (and your provider), I guess - especially with regard to incoming calls. Keeping your existing number can prove to be tricky, and you cannot apply local rates, which might (or might not) actually be less than voip rates. All this on the assumption your voip traffic doesn't get filtered, and the bandwidth/3G coverage and gateway quality is good. So not really a foolproof solution for everybody
Right. It will be much easier to keep your existing number with a data HSPA chip you've hacked to do voice...

... I agree that VoIP is still not "there" yet in terms of general market readiness for Jane Consumer. I was just commenting on the bizarre nature of this thread's proposed hack.
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Right. It will be much easier to keep your existing number with a data HSPA chip you've hacked to do voice...

... I agree that VoIP is still not "there" yet in terms of general market readiness for Jane Consumer. I was just commenting on the bizarre nature of this thread's proposed hack.
The hacking part was the idea of the OP, and I don't think it's a viable option either (other than the 'I did it !' factor). The one exception is if the mobile section is 'transplanted' from an existing Nokia handset, with all the necessary hardware for 'regular' phone calls (GSM, etc) in place, just the stack missing (for whatever reason, a possible retrofit for Harmattan, a 'backup' plan if the other Nseries don't sell well enough, __insert favourite maemo conspiracy theory here__). The chances for that are, of course worse than astronomical. Of course, HSPA VoIP is kindasorta a phone (and will be used by many when RX-51 comes out), but then you could argue that the N810 WiMAX was already a phone, too - sort of...
 
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Look through bluez:audio/telephony-maemo.c from the Fremantle pre-alpha SDKs. There're some interesting API capabilities in there:
  • Inbound calls
  • Conference calling
  • Putting callers on hold

These strongly indicate that some form of "normal" voice-phone capability will be built-in. Certainly there's an API for it.
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2009-02-21 , 17:50
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Looks interesting, though what is bluez involvement with a phone api?

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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Look through bluez:audio/telephony-maemo.c from the Fremantle pre-alpha SDKs. There're some interesting API capabilities in there:
  • Inbound calls
  • Conference calling
  • Putting callers on hold

These strongly indicate that some form of "normal" voice-phone capability will be built-in. Certainly there's an API for it.
 
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2009-02-21 , 19:01
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To me, HSPA VoIP = Phone. What's there to hack? The problem is not whether you can get your HSPA chip to serve you some proprietary 3G format (rather than TCP/IP), but whether you can use VoIP without it being blocked / throttled by your jealous telco ISP and without incurring extra data charges because you go over your limit... anywhere?

Those provising HSPA are certain to cap it off. Unlimited could mean only a few GB. Doesn't sound like you'll be making many VOIP calls over your HSPA. I can almost guarantee that the new NIT WILL be a phone. Figuring that buying the N8x0 tablets is limited to online and Nokia stores, I'd guess they've had a difficult time selling them to more than just a small group of tablet enthusiasts.
 
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Those provising HSPA are certain to cap it off. Unlimited could mean only a few GB. Doesn't sound like you'll be making many VOIP calls over your HSPA. I can almost guarantee that the new NIT WILL be a phone. Figuring that buying the N8x0 tablets is limited to online and Nokia stores, I'd guess they've had a difficult time selling them to more than just a small group of tablet enthusiasts.
What makes you think it's a phone? Every statement I've read from Nokia has mentioned that there is data only cellular connectivity in the Maemo 5 lead device.

Depending on the codec, you could make several VoIP calls even for 1 GB/month. G.711 for instance (64 Kbps) gives about 34 hours of talk time per GB by my calcs. That's a ROM estimate.
 
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Looks interesting, though what is bluez involvement with a phone api?
quick guess, bluetooth handsfree...
 
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If what you say is true then cellular providers would be losing by giving people the ability to voice over their data network. If cingular is offering "unlimited" data for $60 and you can make clear VOIP calls on it then you've got a better deal than every one of their voice customers.
 
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well, there is capacity (# calls/GB), and ability. There is enough capacity to make a significant amount of VoIP calls. Ability is dictated by any throttling or port blocking that the telcos smash you with.
 
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2009-02-21 , 20:40
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Maybe they'll allow the voip use and stiff you with overages and hidden contract fees. One way or another they're going to get theirs.
 
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