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    smog | # 161 | 2009-02-07, 23:23 | Report

    first impression from a n800 user that just got a n810 :

    WTF is that usb connector; can't they just put a mini-usb like most devices on the market ?

    also microSD and SDhc are standard... (has been said before)

    size is better, the n810 is closer to the 770 I had before the n800.

    thumb keyboard is... better than any onscreen keyboard.


    as for the OS, I had the same on the n800.

    now I need another usbOTG adapter.... and this time I can't hack a regular miniusb connector...

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    geneven | # 162 | 2009-02-08, 00:31 | Report

    I also got a N810 -- near $200 is the can-you-resist point.

    That usb adapter should be listed as a bad point of the N810. I don't need another wire; I have enough already. Use a compatible adapter, Nokia.

    The battery is another minus. Why not use the bp-5l? The only real difference seems to be the connector location.

    My N800 is looking cooler all the time. No bulky keyboard slowing me down. And no, the physical keyboard is not faster than the virtual one.

    The gps is nice and seems to work fine for me, even through the roof of my room.

    All in all, the N810 is worth $200 or so. I guess.

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    GeneralAntilles | # 163 | 2009-02-08, 00:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by smog View Post
    WTF is that usb connector; can't they just put a mini-usb like most devices on the market ?
    It's MicroUSB, the port that's going to replace MiniUSB.

    Originally Posted by geneven View Post
    That usb adapter should be listed as a bad point of the N810. I don't need another wire; I have enough already. Use a compatible adapter, Nokia.
    Why does everybody seem to think this is some proprietary port that Nokia pulled out of their ***? It's not, it's MicroUSB (a relatively recent addition to the USB spec, but part of the spec nonetheless), which is a standard just like MiniUSB, but it's both significantly more durable and significantly smaller. It is a better port, you'll just have to give it a little time for manufacturers to switch over.

    There was a time when MiniUSB was hard to find, too, but that passed and now it's one of the most numerous connectors out there. In time, MicroUSB will be too. So, try not to be so reactionary. Thanks.

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    smog | # 164 | 2009-02-08, 01:48 | Report

    Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
    It's MicroUSB, the port that's going to replace MiniUSB.



    Why does everybody seem to think this is some proprietary port that Nokia pulled out of their ***? It's not, it's MicroUSB

    we all know what it is..




    but is it widely used ? no

    is it a significant upgrade over mini-usb ? no

    is it practical ? no

    it's just another foquing cable we have to carry along with the miniSD adapter ....

    and I won't buy the technological advance point; how useful an hydrogen car is if you can't refuel it anywhere.

    the n810 is about to be phased out and the microUSB cable is still not widely used... Should I wait another 2 years to enjoy the choice made by Nokia in 2007 ?


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    dbec10 | # 165 | 2009-02-08, 18:45 | Report

    Smog

    I think you need a long shower and a bar of soap. Then take a deep breath and try to think slowing and rationally.

    The N810 is a newer device than the N800. When most people develop a new device they put in new technology. The new technology eventually becomes the norm. MicroUSB just happens to be the topic at hand.

    If you prefer your N800 then give me the 810.

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    smog | # 166 | 2009-02-08, 22:07 | Report

    Originally Posted by dbec10 View Post
    The new technology eventually becomes the norm.
    exactly like WiMax

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    ukjeeper | # 167 | 2009-02-08, 22:22 | Report

    Had mine for a week now, the local PCWorld (UK's 'Best Buy') was doing a deal on N800/810's (40/80 units of currency instead of 150/200) and i've wanted one for a while. So i snagged me a N810.

    Good: Upgraded to Diablo as soon as the box was opened, been having loads of fun loading up apps. Canola2 (plus the plugins), A-GPS (which isn't really 'assisted' at all...), The GPS chip, btw is pretty damn accurate, as good as my HoluxIII, quite impressed. Fennec (definitely still in beta....), mYTube, Streamtuner, MPlayer, Media Streamer, Video Centre (still undecided if Canola2 doesn't duplicate all that these do), GPS Camera (why?!?!?), LCARRS (now that is just FUN!!!). I'm running all my videos through Nokia's tablet converter first and i'm happy with the results. i have the Android installer and files stored on the external card, just have to pull the trigger.


    Not so good: I'm not a Linux guy (yet), so some of the app's that require 'going under the hood' and 'recompiling' are giving me a headache (root user changes to navit.xml to get Garmin maps to work, huh??) and i didn't like dealing with Google maptiles when i had map software on my PSP so Maemo Mapper isn't making me happy. Also, why the h311 does the default email client refuse to accept my password, the same password that works on EVERY other email app i use? Finally, the BT connection to my phone keeps dropping while i'm out. Its stays locked to my WiFi at home without any problems.


    Not afraid to figure it all out, i've spent a lot of time making S60 phones (i currently use an E90) and thing like PSP's do things that the manufacturers didn't originally plan on, but its a new learning curve, so expect to see me about.

    Thanks.

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    timoph | # 168 | 2009-02-14, 15:49 | Report

    I've used the N810 for a couple of months. The device isn't really mine. I borrowed it from school to be used in my final thesis. I'm doing my thesis on "Developing a Qt application to the Maemo platform".

    The N810 has it's downsides such as getting GPS-fix, small space for the rootfs, etc. But besides these little things the platform and device feels like my thing. I suppose I have to go out and buy my own after I have to return this one. Hopefully someday I can be of some use to the Maemo community (I think I have to learn a bit more about the platform first).

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    fourstar | # 169 | 2009-02-27, 04:20 | Report

    Just had my N810 a couple of days and I'm pretty pleased so far. Flashed to the most recent Maemo version, got vim, rsync, ssh, Personal Menu & Maemo Mapper and now working on Hamachi. The thumb keyboard is not so easy for me, but I do like the onscreen thumb keyboard. I'm probably going to end up getting an iGo Stowaway keyboard, since I think I'll be able to use this tablet to mostly replace my laptop when mobile.

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    geneven | # 170 | 2009-02-27, 06:38 | Report

    I've now had my N810 for a few months, after having had (and continue to have, but rarely use) an N800 for a few years. The GPS seems to work very well for me, I use it all the time, just for fun.

    The other day I discovered myself outside of a library with one bar strength of wireless coverage there in the parking lot. I actually got connected to the library's wifi and could read the NY Times while I waited for the census-takers test to start. I don't think I ever had that weak of a connection work for me before.

    My dislike of the physical keyboard has diminished, though I still use a virtual keyboard most of the time. I sent off for a screen protector, but ended up throwing it away because it messed up touch response a lot.

    I couldn't get Penguinbait's excellent, user-friendly instructions for booting off an mmc card and cloning to work. I've had it working on my N800 for ages. I'll try that again, but it's not so bad without; I can run an awful lot of programs without resorting to the mmc boot stuff. (I even tried the PB system IMMEDIATELY after flashing the N810 and it didn't work -- and I did turn off virtual memory, of course -- maybe there's something wrong with the sd card, which is formatted ext3, of course.)

    All in all, I'd say that the N810 does a much better job of living up to the promise of the N800, though it has a way to go before becoming the really cool and essential device it should be. I don't really need the N810 in my pocket, since I have a Centro that carries me through any emergency, but the N810 adds some fun when I have spare time.

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