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2009-03-09 , 17:13
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oh my Easy debian looks radical! Is it stable? Does installing it affect me in anyway other than positively?
In clinical trials, Easy Debian users showed a strong tendency to begin drinking absinthe and pronouncing "chroot" as if it were a French word; however, qole has contested those findings and further study is underway.
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2009-03-09 , 17:35
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1. My university's network uses the following technologies: WPA-enterprise, PEAP, TKIP, MSCHAP-V2 and EAP-MSCHAPv2 for its security. On my linux-running laptops, this meant downloading a .certificate file and editing the configuration for wpa_supplicant (though the most recent Network Manager allowed me to do it through a GUI I think). Can N810 connect to this?

Probably not (or maybe not, I don't really have any statistics). There is a very old bug that is ignored by Nokia. The N810 can't connect to eduroam, or similarly configured networks:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417

If you give your exact wpa_supplicant configuration, or tell which university, you might get a concrete answer.
 
harisund is offline harisund
2009-03-09 , 22:53
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Basic Settings: (from http://www.grok.lsu.edu/Article.aspx?articleId=1465)
ESSID (Network Name): lsusecure
Network Type: Infrastructure (or Access Point)
TCP/IP: DHCP
EAP Type: PEAP
Network Authentication: WPA (WPA-enterprise)
Data Encryption: TKIP
Authentication Method/Protocol: MSCHAP-V2
Inner EAP Type: EAP-MSCHAPv2

Linux information page: http://grok.lsu.edu/Article.aspx?articleId=1470

And my current wpa_supplicant file

ctrl_interface=/var/tmp/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
network={
ssid="lsusecure"
scan_ssid=1
key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
pairwise=TKIP
eap=PEAP
identity="username"
password="password"
ca_cert=/etc/certs/LSU.cert
phase1="peaplabel=0"
phase2="auth=MSCHAPV2"
}

Oops. Looks like this is unsupported? (Note: This *really* needs to be in, else I will have to delay my getting a tablet till it is supported )
 
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2009-03-09 , 23:11
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Originally Posted by harisund View Post
1. My university's network uses the following technologies: WPA-enterprise, PEAP, TKIP, MSCHAP-V2 and EAP-MSCHAPv2 for its security.
My university (UBC) uses a similar setup; perhaps this page might help? It helped me (and my colleagues) set up our N8x0 tablets.

Nokia 770 WPA Setup

EDIT: The secret key is going back into your connection properties (after you've supposedly set it all up) and going to the very last dialogue, where there's a sneaky little "Advanced" button on the right side. Go into there, then go to the EAP tab, check "Use manual user name" and then enter your user name into the "Manual Username" field.

Originally Posted by sjgadsby View Post
In clinical trials, Easy Debian users showed a strong tendency to begin drinking absinthe and pronouncing "chroot" as if it were a French word; however, qole has contested those findings and further study is underway.
I plead no contest. <sips absinthe> <smokes ch'root>
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
My university (UBC) uses a similar setup; perhaps this page might help? It helped me (and my colleagues) set up our N8x0 tablets.
Nokia 770 WPA Setup
EDIT: The secret key is going back into your connection properties (after you've supposedly set it all up) and going to the very last dialogue, where there's a sneaky little "Advanced" button on the right side. Go into there, then go to the EAP tab, check "Use manual user name" and then enter your user name into the "Manual Username" field.
I plead no contest. <sips absinthe> <smokes ch'root>
I'm quite certain that the encryption method mentioned by the OP is fine. The bug was regarding TTLS/PAP, I believe. (On a side note, darn you, UBC, and your N8x0-compatible wireless! Up on the hill here, I have to tunnel half my stuff because I can't get on the secure Net :P)
@OP#9: I haven't seen the Kindle 2, but e-Ink is quite different. The N810's screen is still readable in direct, bright sunlight, but the colours will be mostly washed out. The term you were looking for is transflective, which means transmissive (backlight) and reflective (like a calculator). It actually works quite nicely, and in the dark, the backlight also turns up to eye-burning brightness :P

I would say that it would suit the OP quite well, but if you can wait, it might be more worthwhile to hang on until the RX-51 comes out, and see if you'd rather buy that. The N810 is great, but the few annoyances I do have with it look to be solved (at least, IMO) in the new version. Besides, once it comes out, N810 prices should plummet even more. if you can't wait, then I'd recommend the N810.
 
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oh my Easy debian looks radical! Is it stable? Does installing it affect me in anyway other than positively?
It would be tough to beat chroot debian if you're looking for your favorite command-line tool.
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2009-03-10 , 13:11
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I'm also thinking about getting an N810. Currently, I have a Nokia E51, which I use fairly heavily for listening to podcasts, browsing web sites (mostly forums like this), checking email, calendar, GPS tracking, and occasional phone calls.

I'm very happy with it, but would like a bigger screen for some things, and a more convenient input method. I did think about getting an N97 when that arrives, but it's too expensive for me, and the screen is still a bit small, both in size and resolution; the phone is also bigger in general; one of the attractions of the E51 is that it is compact.

So, the N810 seems like a pretty good companion to the phone. The advantages I see are the bigger screen, which would give the option of watching video, better website browsing (I mostly use Opera on the E51, which is great for text, but the QVGA is just too small to deal with graphic-based sites without a lot of scrolling around), bigger screen for reading e-books and other documents. The built-in GPS is slightly more convenient than taking a separate one around with you (and making sure it too is charged). I'm also pretty experienced with Linux, so may well find some extra uses for the N810 that I haven't thought of yet.

Some questions:
  • Is there any integration with Nokia phones, beyond using their internet connection? E.g. can you sync contacts or calendar with them, or copy files?
  • Similarly, any way of syncing podcasts with the phone?
  • Do programs have to be specially compiled for the N810, or can you install any i386 rpm?
  • Is there a generic bluetooth keyboard driver? I've got a Freedom bluetooth keyboard (the original version); will that work with the N810? How usable is the built-in keyboard?
  • Any way to connect an external screen?
  • Will the Nokia stereo bluetooth headset, BH-500, work with the N810?


ETA: A bit of background; devices I've used in the past include the original Nokia Communicator, an HP 200LX and an HP iPAQ H2210.
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[*]Do programs have to be specially compiled for the N810, or can you install any i386 rpm?
The tablets are ARM-based, so i386 apps won't work. (They also use deb as their native packaging system, not rpm.)
 

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2009-03-11 , 02:24
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I'm going to piggy back my request for info in this thread as well. I'm a longtime handheld user of mostly Palms. However my venerable Palm IIIc really needs to be retired at this point.

I've been doing a fair amount of research trying to see what I would like to replace it with. Be it a smartphone type device that would replace my old cell phone or stick with my current split device setup with my cell phone staying dumb. I was leaning towards going with a smartphone but then came across the Nokia N8x0s and was immediately drawn to them. But enough with the backstory, my list:

What it has to do:

1. Ebook Reader - I know it's not going to be as pretty, compact, or whatever as a real ebook device but I don't want just an ebook device. I just want it to do ebooks good. (By all accounts I hear this is the case.)

2. Few Games - Being able to play some chess, spades, or even something more involved like a RPG is nice. I've been a gamer since before the term was coined. I make no apologies for liking video games. As such I want some on my mobile device.

3. Minor PDA like functions - Nothing heavy duty just rather like a notepad that is syncable with my PC and an alarm clock. Really that's it, those two things.

And that's all that I require it replace in terms of functionality. By everything I've read none of those are going to be a deal breaker. However never hurts to ask.
 
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2009-03-11 , 04:20
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YoshiMon: yes.
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