lemmyslender | # 731 | 2009-05-28, 16:37 | Report

Can't we all just agree to disagree? Some people here are happy so are not, no one is going to change anyone's mind on this.

On another note, since it seems like there *may* still be a tablet in the future, why does it have to be released after the phone? Couldn't it just as easily be release at the same time as the phone, or perhaps even before? Perhaps to showcase the new UI or even work out some kinks before the phone hits the stores? If Nokia released a tablet earlier than the phone, it would sell pretty well (at least among us) and they'd get a lot of good feedback to perhaps tweak/fix a few things. Plus it might drum up some good press to get the ball rolling before the phone comes out?

daperl | # 732 | 2009-05-28, 16:41 | Report

@allnameswereout

The only obvious thing I think you understand about me is, like everyone, I want to have my cake and eat it too. After that you're blindly throwing poison darts. Here's a quarter.

johnkzin | # 733 | 2009-05-28, 16:48 | Report

That still seems kind of backward to me ... hjkl is the standard (not the work-around), going back to the pre-linux days of unix. If a terminal driven application doesn't support that (*cough*emacs*cough*) it's faulty :-)

qole | # 734 | 2009-05-28, 16:49 | Report

I find it funny that in a forum full of "early adopters" that we're all so resistant to change. Human nature, I guess

Mark my words; I predict that, no matter what we might be saying about the form factor described in these (apparently) leaked documents, the actual Maemo 5 devices will change the marketplace forever. Just think of the impact that a fully open Linux phone (including the telephony stack, thank you, oFono) is going to have on the industry!

People who were with me at the Summit can testify that I've been saying this since I heard about it in September 2008. Starting with the lead Maemo 5 device, the mobile industry will never be the same again.

And honestly, I don't think anyone is really ready for the impact it will have. Even with the 9 months of noise Maemo has been making so far.

penguinbait | # 735 | 2009-05-28, 16:57 | Report

Yes lots of people cried, but very few if any left. That is not the case with what we are talking about here. A good segment of the proponents of Nokia internet tablets will find other devices and become detractors if this becomes a reality, if its not all a load of bull.

When the "geeks" leave, it will hurt the platform. I remember when I bought a 770 three years ago, there was no software, less geeks means less software less functionmality.

It also means better competition from other devices where these "geeks" will find there time better spent.

Justjoe | # 736 | 2009-05-28, 16:59 | Report

I'm not going to scroll back through this 750 post thread, but one of the linked articles concerning the "N810 is 3-of-5 strategy" was quite convincing that the market environment is about to reward the open model bigtime.


Joe

Edit: was an affirmation/ response to qole's post, above. This thread moves so fast, I should've used QR.

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nhanquy | # 737 | 2009-05-28, 17:05 | Report

She is no longer in candy now. She is in Smiley Cirus now. Sad ! sad !

debernardis | # 738 | 2009-05-28, 17:20 | Report

You know, I know, everybody knows that, given funds enough, 95% of people from this forum will buy that... errr.. thing.
Geeks won't leave; a significant part of them, though, enjoys ranting very much
The critical mass of smart and interested people is already here, and when devices get distributed will deflagrate - and it will be the dawn of the new Communicator(s).

casper27 | # 739 | 2009-05-28, 17:22 | Report

This was the post
I thought it was quite definitive in that the N810 is only the 3rd of 5 tablets.

GeraldKo | # 740 | 2009-05-28, 17:24 | Report

Yes, Cap'n Corrupt et al, I easily see why you're excited about a converged device and are willing to sacrifice screen size for pocketability. I bet every "whiner" here gets it and that none of us would argue that Nokia should not come out with such a device.

But there's clearly another group for whom screen size, price (both for hardware and monthly fees), and separation from a cellphone are important.

What I don't get is AJRWright's conclusion that "Nokia will choose one group and rock from there."

It isn't as if Nokia makes only 5 phone models; they make a slew, many of which overlap in terms of target audience. Why walk away from a unique hardware niche? Why not choose more than "one group"?

I'm happy for those who want an open Linux converged device. I can't see why "my group" can't likewise get an updated NIT. I want you to have your cake and for us to have ours, too.