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2009-05-27 , 07:51
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
although of course i'd love it to run maemo, the direction the maemo user interface is taking in fremantle indicates it's being optimized for smaller screens, not for larger netbook displays.

look at screenshots of the maemo 5 SDK: could you imagine something like this on a netbook?
There have been efforts to increase resolution independence, and a high-res (think HP mini-note or better) touchscreen netbook could run it quite respectably.

If I (as an outsider to Nokia, of course, and thus in a position of substantial ignorance) try to imagine Nokia's vision of a netbook interface, why should it differ from an N810 interface? I'd certainly expect it to be much more like an tablet or phone interface than a desktop interface, and substantially to the IT/phone side of even the existing specialized netbook UIs. I'm also expecting the devices themselves to be on the small side (<9" screen) -- but maybe that's just me projecting my desires.

I'm pretty much envisioning a Nokia netbook as a touchscreen-and-keyboard clamshell with no touchpad, and if we're very lucky, one or more models will be convertible tablets. The one key feature here that makes Maemo logical is the touchscreen -- if it's non-touch, Maemo is workable, but not particularly suitable, and I'd guess another Linux. But if it has touch, they've got an OS already developed, needing only completion of resolution independence (if Fremantle doesn't have this yet -- not sure, but I know they have been working on it) and new layouts for the larger resolution. Worst case, even with pathetically coarse screens as on most current/old netbooks, new layouts and themes can reduce the pixel sizes of UI elements to make things workable. It should be at least as easy as adapting any of their other options, and there are no licensing issues.
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
although of course i'd love it to run maemo, the direction the maemo user interface is taking in fremantle indicates it's being optimized for smaller screens, not for larger netbook displays.

look at screenshots of the maemo 5 SDK: could you imagine something like this on a netbook?
See http://gizmodo.com/5260260/nokias-le...rge-smartphone and compare with Moblin 2.0 video..

Easily.
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
although of course i'd love it to run maemo, the direction the maemo user interface is taking in fremantle indicates it's being optimized for smaller screens, not for larger netbook displays.

look at screenshots of the maemo 5 SDK: could you imagine something like this on a netbook?
But can't the UI elements be contextual? That is, have "awareness" of their screen landscape, a scaling property, and adjust accordingly based on some sort of rules system?

That's how I'd design it...
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But can't the UI elements be contextual? That is, have "awareness" of their screen landscape, a scaling property, and adjust accordingly based on some sort of rules system?

That's how I'd design it...
me too.

but whenever these topics were discussed here, nokians said it can't be and it's hard enough to design a good UI for one specific device and use case and you can't make a "one size fits all"-UI etc etc etc.



again (directed at the others who answered, no need to increase my post-count here ...):
when i say "maemo UI", i'm talking about what we know of the maemo 5 UI, not the UI we see on our current devices. (and of yourse not future developments for versions after fremantle)
 
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I agree with Texrat ...

On the other hand, the old UI from Maemo 4 would be absolutely gorgeous on a big screen ... either for a tablet or a netbook ...
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
me too.

but whenever these topics were discussed here, nokians said it can't be and it's hard enough to design a good UI for one specific device and use case and you can't make a "one size fits all"-UI etc etc etc.
This is not directed at you, but that's a load of crap.

At the very least the spec could be designed with certain form factors in mind and provide scaling and other aspects necessary for usage on them.
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
me too.
but whenever these topics were discussed here, nokians said it can't be and it's hard enough to design a good UI for one specific device and use case and you can't make a "one size fits all"-UI etc etc etc.
Yes, but by "one size fits all" they were including all form factors, such as laptops. They didn't say a handheld device with a 3.5" touchscreen needs a different UI than a handheld device with a 7" touchscreen.
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2009-05-29 , 16:17
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
The netbooks are being final-assembled down the street from where I live (former Nokia factory).

I applied for a job there, but the recruiter told me last week that the current listings were "dumbed down" when Foxconn (Q-Edge) started seeing the salaries... which are now cut in half.

Texrat, so you actually are neighbour of the factory where the NetBooks are assembled and even more you had an interview there? What do they say? They aknowledge they are making NetBooks? For Nokia?
And what use to produce Nokia in that factory before they gave it to the Chinese company Foxconn?
 
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Originally Posted by benny1967 View Post
me too.

but whenever these topics were discussed here, nokians said it can't be and it's hard enough to design a good UI for one specific device and use case and you can't make a "one size fits all"-UI etc etc etc.
I guess here the "they" refers to me, so:

- You need to choose between finger UI and stylus UI. It's not trivial to do one-size-fits-both. Or well, sure you can try, but it won't be very good.
- But of course within the choice you make, you can and should design for screen size scalability, to certain extents.
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin View Post
what I'd really like to see is a convertible tablet netbook (swivel screen type), 9" widescreen with dpad on the tablet face (sort of like the skynote 680), and a keyboard with full size keys (the way somme widescreen netbooks do). I'm agnostic about it having built in 3G, or Atom vs ARM.
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