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Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
Guys, personal attacks have no place here in iTT. The forum has a private messaging system. Take them offline.

Thanks.


Way to go ! ! ! Kudos ! ! !
Reggie.





I personally think that the two great people should exchange phone numbers, connect Voice Recorders to their phone and yell at each other to their hearts content ( maybe for a couple of hours ).

Finally, they should make available, the Audio File of their ranting, raving and yelling, here at ITT so that we can all enjoy it and decide who did the best.

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If you're including my participation in that observation, do note that all I was doing initially was taking the instigator to task for namecalling, and I didn't do any ranting afterwards. Not my style.
 
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Originally Posted by soundwave106 View Post
That's Steve Jobs' sales persuasion for ya. IMHO Apple's dreaming right now, given the price and competition. Though it certainly might follow the iPod path and become big later.
If he's quoted 10m to the press and the public it's likely he's touting similar numbers to the mobile networks as well. If he doesn't hit the 10m target he may have to face some awkward questions.

It may be a sales pitch, but there's serious business riding on Apple hitting that target so I can only assume he's serious about selling 10m and it's not just a figure he plucked from the air to make a good soundbite.
 
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No, I don't think he is quoting that to the press, I think he is telling the fan boys/girls, that they all need to buy more than 1 to make sure it hit that 10 mill target.
 
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It's truly amazing what flashy marketing can do. The iPhone does look like a nice unit but the N800 is here now, cheaper, and frickin awesome. Plus it's non-proprietary and scalable. I'm sure apple will do fine though.
 
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Originally Posted by freeman View Post
No, I don't think he is quoting that to the press, I think he is telling the fan boys/girls, that they all need to buy more than 1 to make sure it hit that 10 mill target.
It was clearly stated in his very public keynote. I doubt he's going to quote such numbers publicly then turn around and say to the press "Actually it might be closer to *cough* a couple of million *cough* but lets keep that between ourselves, we don't want to mention that to the stock investors."

No, he's giving the same number to everyone. If he starts quoting different numbers to those given in his keynote, that will begin to erode his credibility somewhat. What else can we then expect to be downscaled from the keynote - battery life, features, size (increased)?

And I doubt most of us can afford one iPhone, let alone multiple!

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hmmm

apple sold a little computer with no floppy drive, no firewire, no scsi, no upgradability, very litle ram, very little Vram, a small hard drive, and no second mouse button. Yet they sold a butt-load of iMacs. And each revision got better than the last. Same with the iPod.The detractors said that it was too bulky, had a small storage capacity to say a nomad or a zen, short battery life, stupid circular interface, and way too expensive. Guess what sells better, iPods or *anything* from iriver? Sure the iphone is not as good as some things and better than others. But it is the first. It can only get better.

What I am more interested in seeing are the doomed imitations. Those are the best! Remember when the lamp-style imac came out and I think it was dell who tried to make an all-in-one that hopped in the commercial? No one bought it. When I think Toshiba made their brushed chrome 17" laptop that sold at Best Buy, again no one bought it. What ever happened to Microsoft’s Origami? I can't even begin to point out the imitators of the ipod.
 
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There's no doubt the iPhone is a nice looking phone, but the initial response is a over the top, much as you might expect with any new Apple product these days. It is, after all, just a pretty looking phone with a touch screen, audio/video player and some eye candy - not unlike quite a few other phones that are available today for much less. I own such a phone, a SonyEricsson W950i, 4GB Walkman missing only the eye candy and good looks! And trust me, only once you've used a touchscreen phone can you appreciate they're not actually that nice to use - I'll be giving up the W950i for something like a N95 as soon as I can!

If and when the iPhone comes down in price, and gains 3G/HSDPA support, I may even be tempted myself but that touchscreen and UI had better be good to change my mind! But for now no thanks - I'm definately not interested.

Initially the iPhone will sell as a fashion/vanity phone, similar to the low volume Nokia 8800 Scirocco phones (look very nice but are way overpriced), and only when they become more reasonably priced (with better high-speed connectivity) will they stand a chance of becoming an "everyday" mobile phone, and sell in truly vast quantities.
 
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Initially the iPhone will sell as a fashion/vanity phone
you for got the must-have for fanboys/girls.
 
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Originally Posted by gigabites View Post
What I am more interested in seeing are the doomed imitations. Those are the best! Remember when the lamp-style imac came out and I think it was dell who tried to make an all-in-one that hopped in the commercial? No one bought it. When I think Toshiba made their brushed chrome 17" laptop that sold at Best Buy, again no one bought it. What ever happened to Microsoft’s Origami? I can't even begin to point out the imitators of the ipod.
Nokia IT doesn't sell that well, either. I mean, we all have one right, but from the outside eyes, these thing doesn't sell much. In the public eyes, it can only surf the web, IM and make IP call, a PDA is much more functional and cheaper also. Not to mention for $400, add another hundred and you can get yourself a laptop. I'm not discrediting the IT, it has its place, but not to the general public.
 
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