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    qole | # 61 | 2009-06-11, 04:02 | Report

    tso: what an interesting poke through the pre's software guts.

    This all sounds very familiar:
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    The Pre uses upstart as its init application. In contrast to mainstream Linux distributions that still mostly use upstart in sysvinit emulation mode, the Pre appears to be almost entirely based on native upstart events.
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    Audio is handled through pulseaudio, while media is handled by gstreamer.
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    IPC is dbus-based rather than using something custom like Android's binder.
    It really looks like it will be easy to port Maemo to the pre (and probably vice-versa).

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    TA-t3 | # 62 | 2009-06-11, 11:50 | Report

    Originally Posted by tso View Post
    http://mjg59.livejournal.com/111453.html

    Quite interesting, it seems that pre has git installed. Who is willing to bet its used to power synergy?
    Git pre-installed? Very interesting. I've been thinking of using git (or possibly the libgit library someone was working on) as a method for two-way synching, seeing how good it a job it's doing with my distributed software repositories (I code on different computers then merge forth and back without trouble).

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    Also, the layout seems fairly conventional, so i suspect nothing will stop palm from dusting of the foleo, pop in a cortex and run it using webos, with git powering any kind of sync between phone and companion...
    DocumentsToGo was already ported to foleo, so if they resurrect that software then maybe we could still end up with something that could run on the NITs (this was a question that came up a couple of years ago or so).

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    tekplay | # 63 | 2009-06-13, 01:06 | Report

    Jailbroken

    http://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com...ster-week.html

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    Thesandlord | # 64 | 2009-06-13, 02:07 | Report

    Jailbroken? See, I thought jailbreaking referred to the iPhone and how they break out of the chroot jail. Is there a chroot on the Pre also? I don't think so...

    It seems like Palm is being rather hacker friendly, having a dev mode and the ability to load custom ROMS. Maybe they are making up for their shitty SDK, but I like it. Normal users don't care, and power users are happy.

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    qole | # 65 | 2009-06-13, 02:18 | Report

    I agree that the "jailbroken" term is ridiculous. But I like what I read in that blog:

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    But man, for a hacker, the Pre is incredible. As mentioned, it runs unsigned firmware and has a root shell over USB when in developer mode (you can use the Konami cheat code to enable dev mode, too); you can do whatever the hell you like to the OS! The entire UI and all the apps are written in javascript, which in essence means the source code is available for you to modify at will, without recompiling anything. Even better, you can write C/C++ native Linux apps for it that draw directly to the framebuffer, as the recent Doom port shows.
    That is very good news! Especially the bit I emphasized there. The walls around that garden aren't very high at all, it turns out. Almost like they're there just for show

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    ARJWright | # 66 | 2009-06-13, 03:39 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    tso: what an interesting poke through the pre's software guts.

    This all sounds very familiar:


    It really looks like it will be easy to port Maemo to the pre (and probably vice-versa).
    That would sound almost like webOS would be something that the Maemo community should then be paying more attention to; especially in these days where mobile device success is primed by the platforms they accent, rather than just the people that fawn.

    That would also make me think that there's the possibility that Palm could reinvent the "Palm Pilot" with a webOS/Synergy model in the form factor of an IT. That would be a heck of a swing to the fences for ubiquitous computing, and a nice challenge to folks here towards workflow, development, and design.

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    qole | # 67 | 2009-06-13, 03:46 | Report

    Engadget has a twisted idea of what is cool. When told that the Pre can be easily hacked, they write,
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    and if this ultimately means we're a few solid steps closer to a Pre running WinMo 6.1, sign us up. Way up.

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    Thesandlord | # 68 | 2009-06-13, 04:22 | Report

    Wait, just wait for one moment. If Apps are written in Javascript, and the ROM is hacked with a root shell, can't people just steal an app, change a few things, and publish it as their own. Will this "hole" stay open?

    Pre looks good now, way better than iPhone (cheaper plan and multitasking and Linux!). Hopefully the homebrew community will thrive.

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    tso | # 69 | 2009-06-13, 16:04 | Report

    Originally Posted by qole View Post
    Engadget has a twisted idea of what is cool. When told that the Pre can be easily hacked, they write,
    and thats why i only read engadget for the images and specs, not the snarky editor "opinions"...

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    GeraldKo | # 70 | 2009-07-15, 23:12 | Report

    Apple breaks Palm Pre sync with iTunes. No surprise.

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