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2009-07-01 , 12:09
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Why on Earth would you need a computer ?
I don't Still, if companies stop shipping a wall charger with the purchased device and leave customers with just a cable (à la Apple, as I stated before) hiding behind the "every USB charger will work, even your PC port", what do you think the average dumbling (half man, half dumb, a lesser inabitant of the Shire...) will do?
I've already seen it with my sister's iTouch, she left the PC running overnight to charge it (and then I built her a wall charger out of a Nokia one, and God blesses Nokia and Pinouts.ru ).
My sister is smarter than me, I have no problem admitting it, she's a very good medical student with good grades and reads a lot, so this pretty much proves my point

Don't get me wrong, I love standards, but I don't trust companies too much when it comes to using them

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Having ONE powered hub style extender is far-far better (even ecologically) than a 220/110 V extender that has a bunch of bricks in it. For example at home I now have a brick-heap by the wall. WRT54GS brick, NSLU2 brick, ADSL modem brick, Nokia charger brick, ground line phone brick, AA battery brick charger... Plus the tetris challenge to fit the above mentioned bricks into extenders... Ugh.
I like tetris, but not playing it under my desk with potentially lethal current
I found a way to avoid it: most of the devices you listed work with a 12V DC and are network related, so I build adapters (a cable with female D-connector and round plug) to power them via a standard 200W AT power supply
 
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2009-07-01 , 12:16
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Yes, maybe I am a pessimist, still I think that the main goal of a company is profit and I can't believe that in the future this will change...
Profit *is* the goal of every company. But sometimes being a team player, or at least appearing as such, carries more financial benefit than looking like a pompous prick who wants you to do everything their way while they rob you blind. That may be their goal, but they're not exactly going to advertise it. Especially if it risks their loosing business.
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2009-07-01 , 13:13
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Originally Posted by JustNick View Post
I don't Still, if companies stop shipping a wall charger with the purchased device and leave customers with just a cable (à la Apple, as I stated before) hiding behind the "every USB charger will work, even your PC port", what do you think the average dumbling (half man, half dumb, a lesser inabitant of the Shire...) will do?
You can't really make industry-wide conclusions on a (currently not even existing) situation based on a single company's policy. Say, the new Nokia's can also be charged via USB but still ship with a classic wall-plug, too.

I've already seen it with my sister's iTouch, she left the PC running overnight to charge it (and then I built her a wall charger out of a Nokia one, and God blesses Nokia and Pinouts.ru ).
ARRGH ! Shooting a flea with a shotgun... Buy her a powered USB hub !

I found a way to avoid it: most of the devices you listed work with a 12V DC and are network related, so I build adapters (a cable with female D-connector and round plug) to power them via a standard 200W AT power supply
Yes, yes, but that's not really a system solution for the general population, is it ?
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2009-07-01 , 13:20
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Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
You can't really make industry-wide conclusions on a (currently not even existing) situation based on a single company's policy. Say, the new Nokia's can also be charged via USB but still ship with a classic wall-plug, too.
Mine was a (hopefully) worst case scenario analisys



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ARRGH ! Shooting a flea with a shotgun... Buy her a powered USB hub !
Many powered HUB don't really work without a root device connected, it was faster and cheaper the DIY alternative (and it comes with a green led, too )



Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
Yes, yes, but that's not really a system solution for the general population, is it ?
No, it isn't
 
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2009-07-01 , 17:26
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ARRGH ! Shooting a flea with a shotgun... Buy her a powered USB hub !
Nah, get her something like this. I never knew they existed until one came with my Sansa Connect. When that got handed over to my mother to charge her player, I went to find a new one and, interestingly enough, stumbled onto a dual usb charger that worked perfectly, even though it was originally designed to charge the wireless controllers (via usb) for a playstation 3.
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2009-07-01 , 17:59
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That won't never work First of all iPhone/iTouch need at least 500mA, that one is rated 300mA (what a piece of ... for 9.99$ ) and second I bet it doesn't have the right differential voltage across the signal pins...
Anyway I've already found and built my solution, thanks
 
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