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2009-07-03 , 21:33
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... Should I be worried?
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2009-07-03 , 23:30
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Originally Posted by Paxicide View Post
I think your comment is sterotyping and paints such a broad stroke it is inaccurate and somewhat offensive. IMO
No, he never said all religious people are crazy, only fundamentalists, who are by definition crazy.

Anyway, I think this video was kinda stupid. The Iranian government is evil. They buy technology. Without this tech, none of the people would have been able to post the videos and news reports. The people who volunteered to post these videos KNOW the consequences. They are sacrificing themselves for the cause, and are heroes. It is not Nokia's fault. It was either make the internet work and get paid, or not get paid.
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2009-07-05 , 12:12
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Originally Posted by Paxicide View Post
I think your comment is sterotyping and paints such a broad stroke it is inaccurate and somewhat offensive. IMO
He was very specific in his targetting. Not broad at all.
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2009-07-05 , 12:55
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Originally Posted by Thesandlord View Post
The Iranian government is evil.
the problem with "evil" is that anybody's evil by somebody's moral standards. - i don't think governments, especially foreign governments, should be judged as "good" or "evil".
 
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2009-07-05 , 13:24
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Benny's correct. It's like that old reasoning exercise:

If you could go back and kill Hitler when he was an adult, would you? As a teenager? A toddler? A baby?

Or closer-to-home cases like deporting just the the children of parents who have committed some immigration crime.

As loathe as we are to consider it, good and bad CAN be relative...
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2009-07-05 , 13:26
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Yes, I am a veteran. Not only that, I ran a whole department (Quarterdeck) devoted to electronic support, for about eight years. So you'd think my opinion would be worth something. But no...
 
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2009-07-05 , 16:19
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Yes, I am a veteran. Not only that, I ran a whole department (Quarterdeck) devoted to electronic support, for about eight years. So you'd think my opinion would be worth something. But no...
It is not about you or me. It is about the flow of information on a forum...
 
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2009-07-07 , 08:29
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Originally Posted by qole View Post
Problem is that the legalists and "fundamentalists," the ones who do the weirdest and funniest things, are also most likely to shoot you if you laugh at them...

This is most ironic for Christianity, where the founder of the religion stated, very clearly, that if someone slaps you on the cheek (a terrible insult), you are supposed to "turn the other cheek," as well as forgive others who have wronged you. So violence in the name of Christianity is going against the fundamentals of the religion. And yet it is the self-proclaimed "fundamentalists" who brandish the guns in the name of God...
It's never really about religions or fundamentalism, or racism, or terrorism. It's about constructing a "us - them" mentality. To do that one could use anything really, as history has shown us. And you need that confrontation, not to spread Christianity, civilisation or democracy, it's about acquiring wealth and power.

Anyway I'm not sure what's funnier, the fundamentalists that live by every word that came from some prehistoric desert/jungle/forest tribe, or the majority of believers that are for the most part hypocrites and follow the moral code only when it suits them or not at all, but think that they can judge others by it.

Religions are only different philosophies and myths and they should be treated as such.

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Anyway, here is hitler as a baby. Would you kill him? What about now?
 
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2009-07-07 , 10:01
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Very interesting point, here is more for shabbat mode, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath_elevator:

"A Shabbat elevator is an elevator which works in a special mode, operating automatically, to allow for the Jewish law for abstaining from operating electric switches on Shabbat. An elevator may be marked with a sign noting that it is specially configured for Shabbat observance.[1] There a several ways the elevator works going up and down; stopping at every floor, stopping at alternative floors, or rising to the top floor and stopping while going down.

Shabbat elevators can be found in areas of large Jewish population in Israel, the United States and Argentina. They are typically found in big hotels, Israeli hospitals and other health institutions, apartment buildings, and in some synagogues.

The Israeli Knesset passed a special Shabbat elevator law[2] in 2001 ordering the planning and building of all residential buildings, and public buildings which have more than one elevator, to install a control mechanism for Shabbat (Shabbat module) in one of the elevators.[3]

In this mode, an elevator will stop automatically at every floor, allowing people to step in and out without having to press any buttons. Otherwise it is prohibited to use an elevator on Shabbat because pressing the button to operate the elevator closes a circuit, which violates the prohibition of building on Shabbat, and may also indirectly lead to "writing" of the new floor number in the display."

and more

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2009-07-07 , 11:16
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Originally Posted by Paxicide View Post
I think your comment is sterotyping and paints such a broad stroke it is inaccurate and somewhat offensive. IMO
I think people exercising extreme and pointless political correctness everywhere should be grouped into the same bin with religious fundamentalists and other totalitarian extremists.
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