Jaffa | # 121 | 2009-08-08, 08:33 | Report

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KristianW | # 122 | 2009-08-09, 22:12 | Report

Qole , Thanks for easy-mer 015 !!

But I can't find "mer-switch",
I suppose I have missed doing something.
And the way I used to start the old easy-mer doesn't work :

I used to edit the /home/user/.chroot file.
Just changing the partition number gave me easy-debian / easy-mer,
when I clicked on the "Debian chroot" icon.

Does it make any difference that I now have untarred to a logical partition
( created by "pb" in Console tools )
formatted to ext3 (ext2 before) ?

mmcblk1p1 : Fat
mmcblk1p2 : ext3 , easy-debian
( mmcblk1p3 replaced by 2 log. partitios : )
mmcblk1p5 : ext3 , easy-mer (?)
mmcblk1p6 : ext3 , maemo (boots OK)
mmcblk1p4 : swap


EDIT :
Just found, that if I comment out both CHROOT= lines in /home/user/.chroot ,

IMGFILE=/dev/mmcblk1p5
IMGFS=ext3
#CHROOT=/debian
#CHROOT=/mer
TMPSIZE=6M
DEBUSER=user

edit the partition number to point to easy-mer ,
and click "Debian chroot" in the main menu , after some error msgs
I get a [root@chroot /] prompt.
From which I can start tear, leafpad and claws-mail.


But I still wonder what the proper way is,
and if i need to bother about those error msgs.

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qole | # 123 | 2009-08-10, 19:20 | Report

You have to install the easy-mer-0.15.1 .deb file from my repository, and it will be installed in /usr/bin for you.

Now that I've updated the .deb, however, you won't have to edit that file, I've fixed it for you. You should be able to go right into the Mer desktop by clicking on the menu icon.

I don't know why the following doesn't work for you. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that you have so many partitions? I thought I read somewhere that you shouldn't have more than 4 partitions per card...

But if you got it working, then I guess it doesn't matter.

qole | # 124 | 2009-08-10, 19:21 | Report

I haven't installed OpenOffice in this version. I don't know if the "Open File" dialogue has been fixed yet... Something to try when I get the time...

delaroca | # 125 | 2009-08-11, 02:33 | Report

It hasn't been fixed, yet, so we still need the hack you came up with previously to overcome this problem.

CPU loops and crashes are the order of the day with Abiword under easy-mer -- the opposite of running it under easy-debian where everything works perfect.

--denis

KristianW | # 126 | 2009-08-11, 07:12 | Report

@ qole

Qole , Thanks a lot !!

Beautiful opening screen !!!
With easy-mer being born in a black hole !!
And that nice touch of easy mer !

I installed your easy-mer-0.15.1 .deb , and found mer-switch.
But I found no line in it that invited me to editing.
( I tried to follow through other files started by mer-switch,
but all references I found to chroot were in files called something-debian/debbie , so I left them alone, in case they also were part of easy-debian. I found /home/user/.mer-chroot , but no reference to it.)
So I did my old hack of pointing .chroot to /dev/mmcblk1p5 , ext3 .
( There is - a proper way , (?) )


Now , off to the funfair . . .
( Reporting a reproducible un-expected , but, for a user, un-serious behaviour.)
The following was experienced with the charger connected,
with my NIT on battery none of this happened.

(( Background : When I reboot maemo while on charge, my N810-43-7 sometimes closes down after I choose a partition in Boot-menu, and when I then push the power-button it goes straight into the choosen partition.
If I shut-down maemo while on charge and restart with the power button, it bypasses the Boot-menu and sometimes boots into flash instead of back into clone.
My boot-menu is the one received when installing mer))

You will notice that I am the-poking-around-computer-user,
- of " -- 'satiable curtiosity ".

Clicking the new Easy-Mer icon -
--- that opening screen !!!
I clicked the maemo (ae) icon and mistook "quit" for quitting mer,
so the logout road nicely disappearad . . . and I choose to Switch-off.

>> Now it comes - - ( Remember, my NIT is on charge.)
Restarting with the power button brought my NIT straight through a glimpse of easy-mer desktop and Nokia's hand-to-hand image into a mixed maemo-mer desktop.
No file would "open to save", so after opening a mer and a maemo window I had to get a camera out.

PIC

Notice the debian file system showing in File-manager.

And what might - - , so I clicked the Easy-Mer icon , and -

PIC

Well , let's merry-go-round - - (click>)

PICs - - -

Swap stayed on , with swap off the merry-go-round grinded to a halt with full bars in load-applet in the first double-easy-mer.

Anyway, I hope this gallery amused also you !

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qole | # 127 | 2009-08-11, 18:45 | Report

KristianW:

That is incredibly weird! Thanks for the pictures!

I can only assume that because you were on charger, your tablet didn't shut down completely, but to be honest, I have no idea how that happened...

(and as I said, you don't need to edit anything once you install the easy-mer deb file)

qole | # 128 | 2009-08-11, 18:54 | Report

I don't know why your bootable Mer WiFi isn't working. I tried not to touch any config files for bootable Mer, so it would work as expected... Anybody else know?

I set the password for both root and user to the old tablet default root password (do a search). Interestingly, "sudo" works like Ubuntu's sudo now, asking you for a password and then letting you actually proceed.

KristianW | # 129 | 2009-08-11, 20:45 | Report

@ qole

My thoughts are, that there must be a connection with the above.
And I would like to know if that maemo-bootmenu-charger-glitch is only on my tablet.

I have seldom had such a hilarious computer experience since I had my first lessons (~1990) trying to crash my Acorn Archimedes.
( It had the first ARM (12 mHz) processor running RISC OS, a cooperatively multitasking modular OS with dynamically loading modules and windowing way ahead of Windows.)


Qole , as to easy-mer :

I installed your easy-mer deb and ran it, but it complained that it could not find an image-file.
So I supposed I had to tell it that my easy-mer was on an ext3 partition.
When I edited the /home/user/.chroot file to point that way, easy-mer worked.

Obviously that is not what you intend.
So what is the proper way ?
And would that make easy-mer and easy-debian independant ?

Possibly I have messed up some file earlier.
If so, deleting a lot and reinstalling could be simpler.
( But what lot ? Apt-get clean seems to leave things around, confusing the novice.)
And I would learn more by finding the fault.
( I could, of course, make a new install on an empty maemo and try to compare files.)

Thanks for any advice !!

qole | # 130 | 2009-08-11, 22:30 | Report

KristianW:

I intended easy-mer to run from an image file.

If you put it into a partition, then you do have to edit the .chroot file.

I didn't bother making Easy Mer independent from Easy Debian because it is basically the same thing, just using Ubuntu instead of Debian.

At this point I'm thinking that I will only make an Easy Mer for Fremantle...