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Karel Jansens is offline Karel Jansens
2007-01-19 , 19:46
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I had a converted video on my 770's memory card (converted by Konttori's newest version of Media Converter at 288x208, 25fps from a DiVX file), which played a bit choppily on the 770, so I shoved the card into my new N800 and hit play.

And whaddayaknow? The thing is playing in the exact same choppy way it played in my 770! Every second or so it seems to skip a couple of frames, which is very annoying indeed.

WTF!!?? This is supposed to be an all-new, blindingly fast media machine! Did I waste my money or what?
 
JayMontano is offline JayMontano
2007-01-19 , 20:04
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Yes, it's disgusting isn't it?

It was one of the things I mentioned in my review this annoyingly bad choppyness (both onboard and streamed video)

I'm still trying to work out exactly what settings I'm meant to be converting to. I've tried formats/bit rates identical to what the N800 can play (like the N93 advert that was there - or was in the N93i card...I dunno)

It's quite sad really, all those pixels and I can't really see it all through video (aflegg has a link for conversion, which is good, but it scales up so quite pixelated)

You're lucky yours is playing. Mine keeps on saying "codec not supported". Even on files that have come from my N93/N93i at CES. Some will play, some will not (QVGA 15FPS plays).

I think the manual mentions something about it...
 
skynetos is offline skynetos
2007-01-19 , 20:09
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I've converted an entire DVD movie using Media Converter to:
400x240 24bpp 23.980 fps 256 kbps

Media Converter simply uses mencoder (Mplayer) to convert the videos.

It plays no problem full screened on the N800 using the built in media player.

I don't understand how people could possibly have any problems this is all documented very well.
 
JayMontano is offline JayMontano
2007-01-19 , 20:36
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Originally Posted by skynetos View Post
I've converted an entire DVD movie using Media Converter to:
400x240 24bpp 23.980 fps 256 kbps

Media Converter simply uses mencoder (Mplayer) to convert the videos.

It plays no problem full screened on the N800 using the built in media player.
Thanks, I'll try those settings out.

I don't understand how people could possibly have any problems this is all documented very well.
Documented where?

About "how people could possibly have any problems", well I didn't expect the player to have such strict settings as to what it can actually play. I just got used to smartmovie being able to play most .avi files independent of what settings I've set.
 
skynetos is offline skynetos
2007-01-19 , 20:45
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Documented right here on Maemo:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding

Like most things are.


As for the media player having strict settings to play videos it is an embedded device and can only handle a certain range of videos properly on the display/cpu etc. So thats like saying "I can't believe my DVD player is so restricted it can't play Real Media files or HDTV rips".

In anycase, as long as you follow the above mentioned guidelines for creating a video you should have no problems playing them on the N800.
 
JayMontano is offline JayMontano
2007-01-19 , 21:20
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Originally Posted by skynetos View Post
Documented right here on Maemo:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding

Like most things are.
Ah, forgive me. I am new to the all of this. Not really been reading up about that.


As for the media player having strict settings to play videos it is an embedded device and can only handle a certain range of videos properly on the display/cpu etc. So thats like saying "I can't believe my DVD player is so restricted it can't play Real Media files or HDTV rips".
Well no, that's not a fair analogy. It's an N-Series device, meant to be a capable multimedia computer. It should at least retain the ability of other older N-Series devices to handle at least videos that those could play.

At least this is what is implied - this is why the N800 became an N-Series according to the Nokia Product Manager.

And saying that, I'm not asking the N800 to play extra unsupported codecs. I was just hoping there would be a fair range that I could convert within.

Imagine buying a DVD player that plays DivX. You pop in your other Disks with your library of previous DivX files but it doesn't work!

You have to convert all your DivX files to settings that your new DVD player supports. (Which another older DVD player of identical branding and the same product line plays)

It's not expecting it to play Read Media or HD TV rips.


In anycase, as long as you follow the above mentioned guidelines for creating a video you should have no problems playing them on the N800.
I shall do that - cheers
 
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Karel Jansens is offline Karel Jansens
2007-01-19 , 21:46
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Originally Posted by skynetos View Post
I've converted an entire DVD movie using Media Converter to:
400x240 24bpp 23.980 fps 256 kbps

Media Converter simply uses mencoder (Mplayer) to convert the videos.

It plays no problem full screened on the N800 using the built in media player.

I don't understand how people could possibly have any problems this is all documented very well.
It's really weird. I've tried another file (can't try too many, as my fancy 4GB cards haven't arrived yet), this time an episode from "Farscape", encoded at a ridiculously low bitrate of 25 kbps, 25 fps and 240x144 (the lowest setting of Media Converter). Not only did it play smoothly, but it looked quite acceptable on the tiny screen (for those who are craving full VGA-playback: Don't expect too much of it on so small a screen). Just a little better quality would be nice, though.

Question: Does MPlayer run on the N800 and if so, does it perform better than the built-in player in this regard?

Another question: I'm not too familiar with mencoder ("not at all" would be more correct), but I do have this program that is a front-end to (a.o.) mencoder: Pocket DivXEncoder, which I use a lot to convert videos for my Archos. However, whenever I try to encode something for the Nokia, I always end up with a file the videoplayer doesn't recognize. Has anyone had any success with PocketDivXEncoder and the Nokia N800?
 
TA-t3 is offline TA-t3
2007-01-23 , 12:34
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FWIW, my old Palm Tungsten T3 can play almost anything, through the TCPMP medial player application. I've got lots of files from various sources, including quicktime movies from my digital cameras (they're typically in half-vga formats), and .avi files from magazines (online and from CD), also in nice formats (not that it matters, that T3 application can run bigger screen formats with on-the-fly reduction). NONE of these run on the N800 media player, which is a bit of a bummer. So far I've only been able to play the demo file that came pre-installed.
 
c_legaspi is offline c_legaspi
2007-01-23 , 14:20
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i use Amadis DVD to 3gp converter. it plays great on my n770 and cell phone.

i use 3gp so i dont have to have two different formats. i encode it at 340 x 240. works for me and its alot faster.
 
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